New Group Name for My UTAU

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Arissa

Ritsu's Renegades
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Please don't say "shonen" anymore. I've already had trouble with others because of the mentioning of that word and it's making me feel more awful about myself.
Don't mean to pry, but didn't you just use that word...?

Also ig no one seems to have what you're looking for so...
 
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Animé Fan

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Don't mean to pry, but didn't you just use that word...?

Also ig no one seems to have what you're looking for so...
Didn't mean to and no need to trouble yourself with me anymore. I'll come up with something eventually, but for now, my UTAU and I are going to go away for a while. Without a name, my UTAU really can't do anything and I'm already being referred to as the bad guy of the situation. Besides, I fare best alone anyway and always had. I'll be fine, really. Thanks for trying.
 

Zephyr

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As I've stated so many times, I understand and I'm no longer going to go for anything related to that word. I'm getting tired of this as much as everybody else is and frankly I'd rather put myself out of my misery than repeat this all over again.

I'll let you in on a confession: everybody in the UTAU community frightens me. I actually appreciated the help, really I do, but the way everybody gave me the advice really scared me, as if imposing it; Erin especially made it worse for me. I've seen how the other users act online, be it through the Chatbox, thread, etc.; whether or not I'm familiar with them, their words and actions give me impressions of how I perceive them, including their presentation. It's not that I refuse the advice; in fact, I take lots of things into consideration, especially in my works. I apologize for blathering about these useless things, but I should at least tell the truth because it's been bothering me for a long time.

But how to make it into just four letters? The name can probably start with "XO", but how to do the "nen" part into two letters?


I'm not really good at being random. Something will eventually come up, if anything at all.

Seriously? What the hell. Stop mentioning me altogether. I never even talked to you and yet you keep whining about me. Can you just stop saying my name in any way shape or form please?
 

Animé Fan

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Seriously? What the hell. Stop mentioning me altogether. I never even talked to you and yet you keep whining about me. Can you just stop saying my name in any way shape or form please?
That's fine.
 

☆彡иα∂ιѕ☆彡

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Let's just make smth clear here: you are not the victim. nobody was being rude or calling you out. nobody was trying to make you feel bad. everyone was merely educating you about something you may not have completely understood. nobody's mad at you about that. what people ARE mad about is you playing the victim card because there are already so many melodramatic people in the community who do this that it's tiring. seriously. everyone needs to relax

peace out
[doublepost=1497921199,1497919676][/doublepost]Also, last thing: especially considering you said "If people get offended that's their problem, not mine" and people were STILL kind to you in regards to how shitty of a thing that is to say without proper regards to the vast majority of the community who are members of the LGBT community, that says alot about those people. it also says a lot about you to continue playing the "woe is me" card after that which is utter bull ass shite so if you want to continue playing that card, then honestly nobody's going to pay you any mind. however, if you drop it then people will be more willing to give a homie a hand bc what you're doing ain't tight dude.

peace out for reals
 

Melomad

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I think Animé fan understood what she did wrong. She does not need to be called out 3 time in a row to understand that she used a transphobic word.

Many people says that she plays the victim card but I don't see any "ho I'm mentaly ill don't attack me" or any "It's okay, I'll just kill myself then". She's not playing the victim she is just saying that she's scared of other members of the community.

Now let's stop with the drama and let's help her to find a new name for her group because that's what this thread is about.
 
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Arissa

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Yeah, I think this is going too far. I'm sure by now she already has acknowledged what she's done wrong, no need to keep replying and accelerate the drama, just makes people look bad and hungry for more confrontation. Let's just move on and stop with the endless unnecessary comments, as they start to look like attacks and are just generally unpleasant.
 

JAY

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I think Animé fan understood what she did wrong. She does not need to be called out 3 time in a row to understand that she used a transphobic word.

Many people says that she plays the victim card but I don't see any "ho I'm mentaly ill don't attack me" or any "It's okay, I'll just kill myself then". She's not playing the victim she is just saying that she's scared of other members of the community.

Now let's stop with the drama and let's help her to find a new name for her group because that's what this thread is about.
Yeah, I think this is going too far. I'm sure by now she already has acknowledged what she's done wrong, no need to keep replying and accelerate the drama, just makes people look bad and hungry for more confrontation. Let's just move on and stop with the endless unnecessary comments, as they start to look like attacks and are just generally unpleasant.

The thing is, nobody was attacking them. We are not going too far with our requests. They're totally playing the victim and saying "oh I feel so attacked and I'm so scared by people in the community" and "I'm already being referred to as the bad guy of the situation." Well sorry bout it, but fighting to end transphobia and to keep transphobic terms out of the community isn't too far, not in the slightest.

Let's get one thing straight, we're not telling you your group name or characters aren't okay to attack you. If we wanted to attack you, we would be saying a lot nastier shit than "wow this is really transphobic". That's not nasty AT ALL. We're telling you they're not okay because LGBTQ UTAU users, feel attacked by what you're putting out. You want people to stop? Fix your shit and stop making characters/group names that hurt LGBTQ people. Then we'll talk.
 

Arissa

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The thing is, nobody was attacking them. We are not going too far with our requests. They're totally playing the victim and saying "oh I feel so attacked and I'm so scared by people in the community" and "I'm already being referred to as the bad guy of the situation." Well sorry bout it, but fighting to end transphobia and to keep transphobic terms out of the community isn't too far, not in the slightest.

Let's get one thing straight, we're not telling you your group name or characters aren't okay to attack you. If we wanted to attack you, we would be saying a lot nastier shit than "wow this is really transphobic". That's not nasty AT ALL. We're telling you they're not okay because LGBTQ UTAU users, feel attacked by what you're putting out. You want people to stop? Fix your shit and stop making characters/group names that hurt LGBTQ people. Then we'll talk.
It's all fine and good to want transphobia gone, I'm saying people don't have to keep constantly replying to her, chances are she's already learned her lesson and in the future will steer clear from using offensive LGBT terms, especially after receiving such a heavy backlash for her mistake. It doesn't take five people to get across the idea of one thing.

When people keep replying with the same thing, more and more it looks as if they have nothing better to do and that they're trying to attack someone or keep the drama going. Getting out your feelings is fine but most people just continue replying with what the first three replies said. She already gets the message, even one of the defenders on your side said things have gotten too far with this thread and situation and sees no reason to keep replying, because it'd basically be just beating the same dead horse over and over.

Furthermore it's okay for her to be scared, especially if when she interacts with people she's greeted with things like this on a daily basis. We don't know her, so who are we to decide how she really is or her real intentions, for all we know she could be genuinely afraid of interacting with people, with anxiety and bullying being a thing in this world I'm not surprised that something like this is even remotely possible.
 
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JAY

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It's all fine and good to want transphobia gone, I'm saying people don't have to keep constantly replying to her, chances are she's already learned her lesson and in the future will steer clear from using offensive LGBT terms, especially after receiving such a heavy backlash for her mistake. It doesn't take five people to get across the idea of one thing.

When people keep replying with the same thing, more and more it looks as if they have nothing better to do and that they're trying to attack someone or keep the drama going. Getting out your feelings is fine but most people just continue replying with what the first three replies said. She already gets the message, even one of the defenders on your side said things have gotten too far with this thread and situation and sees no reason to keep replying, because it'd basically be just beating the same dead horse over and over.

Furthermore it's okay for her to be scared, especially if when she interacts with people she's greeted with things like this on a daily basis. We don't know her, so who are we to decide how she really is or her real intentions, for all we know she could be genuinely afraid of interacting with people, with anxiety and bullying being a thing in this world I'm not surprised that something like this is even remotely possible.

Sounds like a victim card but okay. Problem is this user has now a transphobic character that they were refusing to fix and a group name with transphobic connotations, so five people apparently isn't enough. What we're doing isn't unreasonable. Stop making it sound unreasonable because we have every right to be mad and fighting against normalized transphobia. Don't erase that fact.
 

Arissa

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Sounds like a victim card but okay. Problem is this user has now a transphobic character that they were refusing to fix and a group name with transphobic connotations, so five people apparently isn't enough. What we're doing isn't unreasonable. Stop making it sound unreasonable because we have every right to be mad and fighting against normalized transphobia. Don't erase that fact.
Did you not see my reply...? If you have an issue with her just PM her, no need to draw it out here, especially when this isn't even the thread the original issue was posted in. I didn't erase anything or support transphobia, I just said that going on won't do anything if she's already learned her lesson.

People telling her the same thing over and over doesn't do anything, especially if they get more aggressive. If you want her to stop, politely pull her aside and speak to her, but chances are she's probably not even online atm.
 

Shasta

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Ok. Fine. You win Anime Fan. Keep your transphobic pedophilia. But just know. You ain't the victim here. The people you have been mocking for who knows how long are. This is because of you. We tried to help, but everytime we did you insisted to stick with your pedophilic ways. Yes. Using the term "shonen" is pedophilic. There are people on this forum who have suffered from what you call "just a name". It is more than a name, it is a story you are down right mocking. The last time I tried to help you amd get you to change the name, someone on this forum thanked me for sticking up for them. You hurt them, and made the feel uncomfortable here. You did this and brought it upon yourself, because this isn't the first time I've told you about the name and you chose to keep it. You chose for this to happen again. You're not the victim. The people who connect to the terms you just throw around are. He told me his story. His encounter with pedophilia. How it damaged him, scarred him, and just being told his story made me cry. What he went through. His pain, his suffering. But to you it is meerly a joke. Just a name. To these people, the people you are walking all over, these words affected, or still affects them in serious ways. I will not stand for his story to be made a joke because of you. I will not stand for you walking all over the people who have suffered. These are more than just words and I have been trying to get you to understand this. No. Everyone needs to stop coddling her, she is at fault and since I've already got on to her about this before and she still refuse to change, no she doesn't understand. Then for those who are transgender, do you realize what they go through on a day to day basis? I don't know about people on this forum, but in the world around me I've seen them get murdered, abandoned, and all types of horrible things you just mock. You walk all over these people, these stories. I will not stand for this.

Mods, if I stepped over the edge, ban me. I am tired of watching this person continue to mock these stories, these people and see no consequences.
 

JAY

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Did you not see my reply...? If you have an issue with her just PM her, no need to draw it out here, especially when this isn't even the thread the original issue was posted in. I didn't erase anything or support transphobia, I just said that going on won't do anything if she's already learned her lesson.

People telling her the same thing over and over doesn't do anything, especially if they get more aggressive. If you want her to stop, politely pull her aside and speak to her, but chances are she's probably not even online atm.
Stop silencing trans people from fighting against the normalization of transphobia!!! It's not that hard!!! You're part of the problem!!!
 

Arissa

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Stop silencing trans people from fighting against the normalization of transphobia!!! It's not that hard!!! You're part of the problem!!!
I just said I wasn't supporting transgender people! My best friends are transgender, for crying out loud! Obviously you've mistaken me for something I'm not. I meant that there's really no need to keep going on with this, if you have a problem with someone face them directly, there's no need to keep bringing it up in a thread that isn't even where the original issue sprouted, aka the Xota art thread. Sorry if you think I was supporting transphobia because it was not in my intentions to seem as if I was.
 
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JAY

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I just said I wasn't supporting transgender people! My best friends are transgender, for crying out loud! Obviously you've mistaken me for something I'm not. I meant that there's really no need to keep going on with this, if you have a problem with someone face them directly, there's no need to keep bringing it up in a thread that isn't even where the original issue sprouted, aka the Xota art thread. Sorry if you think I was supporting transphobia because it was not in my intentions to seem as if I was.
Trans people are allowed to fight against transphobia, plain and simple. You have no right to tell us that what we're doing is "too much" if you are not trans and don't experience transphobia. Telling me what I am doing is "overkill" because I am not willing to be a doormat to the normalization of transphobia is part of the issue. Stop silencing us. I don't care if that wasn't your intentions, now you know, and now you can stop with the BS.
 
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Arissa

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Trans people are allowed to fight against transphobia, plain and simple. You have no right to tell us that what we're doing is "too much" if you are not trans and don't experience transphobia. Telling me what I am doing is "overkill" because I am not willing to be a doormat to the normalization of transphobia is part of the issue. Stop silencing us. I don't care if that wasn't your intentions, now you know, and now you can stop with the BS.
You know little to nothing about me and have apparently misunderstood my entire demeanor, but I'll let you have your glory if you wish. Sorry.
 
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