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Does anyone know how to properly use the suffixbroker with VCCV?
I have some pitches set up with a prefix map, but I wanted to compare each pitch to each other for the same set of notes. Using the suffixbroker with VCCV does add the suffix I want, but it removes letters of the VCCV notes as well. Is there a work around? Am I doing something wrong?
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Besides the p flag, are there other flags/resamplers that you feel improves the sound of the voicbanks?
 

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Moresampler is pretty amazing. I can't say it improves the bank itself but it sounds better than most other resamplers imo.
I love moresampler because it renders voicebanks faster than any other I've used, but its not rated E for everyone. Some utaus will sound fine until that one samples is used. Hopefully in the future that will be fixed along with the static noise present.
 
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I love moresampler because it renders voicebanks faster than any other I've used, but its not rated E for everyone. Some UTAU will sound fine until that one samples is used. Hopefully in the future that will be fixed along with the static noise present.
Luckily enough for me, I have yet to find that one sample with my bank tests, haha. Someday.
 
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What do you guys think of multipitch VCCV, and how close of a pitch is too close?
For example, I've done A3 and C4. Do I keep both, or drop one?
 

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What do you guys think of multipitch VCCV, and how close of a pitch is too close?
For example, I've done A3 and C4. Do I keep both, or drop one?
Well yall should know what I think of multipitch xD
But honestly it's quite cool to have, and with how hard it is to make an English vb sound realistic, it does kinda help.
One thing is that imo it takes a lot longer to render I think?....Maybe?
 

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Well yall should know what I think of multipitch xD
But honestly it's quite cool to have, and with how hard it is to make an English vb sound realistic, it does kinda help.
One thing is that imo it takes a lot longer to render I think?....Maybe?
I have no idea what you think of multipitch lmao

Anyways, lately, I'm really unsure if I should give Sora an english power append; after all its a lot to record, and Sora's Core is kind of powerful?
 

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I think I even said it earlier in the thread, but it sounds like hell to record, especially with how many things there ARE to record in a vccv, but then again the otoing might me even LESS work because you have more of a custom base oto..
 

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I think I even said it earlier in the thread, but it sounds like hell to record, especially with how many things there ARE to record in a vccv, but then again the otoing might me even LESS work because you have more of a custom base oto..
Lol, then I'm you're wrong guy, I don't do monopitch XD
 

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What do you guys think of multipitch VCCV, and how close of a pitch is too close?
For example, I've done A3 and C4. Do I keep both, or drop one?
I'm in the same boat as Sors. I don't really like monopitch. One pitch is better than no pitch, but I feel like monopitch really limits the range of the UTAU. (at least insofar as the tone is concerned.)

As for how close is too close, the absolute closest I'd go is a minor third apart. Closer than that and they're literally just a note apart, at which point is it really doing anything? Especially if its a 2 pitch VB. For a 2 pitch VB, I'd probably put them a 4th or a 5th apart. I have all of my pitches a major third apart, cuz 3 major thirds make an octave, which means I can just repeat the same 3 notes in different octaves across the VB's range and still have them all evenly spaced.
 
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What do you guys think of multipitch VCCV, and how close of a pitch is too close?
For example, I've done A3 and C4. Do I keep both, or drop one?

In general, I think more than three pitches is ridiculous. UTAU automatically changes the pitch of your vocals to begin with. The only time I think recordings begin to sound robotic/unnatural is when you go 3 octaves above the base pitch. If your base pitch is a G4, then having a A4/#, E4/# seem unneeded. Abby's power bank starts as a G3 and can carry all the way into a

A3 and C4 are too close in range to me, perhaps an A3 with E4. But if you hear a better quality with those pitches, then keep them.

With VCCV, clearly there are a lot of samples to begin with. I think you have to be very selective in the pitches you want because
1.You're going to invest more time and starting over would suck
2.Nobody wants to download a big file and not see much of a difference in pitches.
 
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I'm in the same boat as Sors. I don't really like monopitch. One pitch is better than no pitch, but I feel like monopitch really limits the range of the UTAU. (at least insofar as the tone is concerned.)

As for how close is too close, the absolute closest I'd go is a minor third apart. Closer than that and they're literally just a note apart, at which point is it really doing anything? Especially if its a 2 pitch VB. I have all of my pitches a major third apart, cuz 3 major thirds make an octave, which means I can just repeat the same 3 notes in different octaves across the VB's range and still have them all evenly spaced.
It's not a 2 pitch VB, it's meant to be 7 in the end.
I've done A3, C4, and am doing F3. But I'm debating deleting A3 and continuing in a similar fashion.
 
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it's meant to be 7 in the end.

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I think it also depends on how many pitches you're doing. eg, if you're doing 8 pitches and have each pitch a 5th apart, that's, like, 4+ octaves; you'd have to me Mariah Carey to record that. I think the more pitches you have the closer together they can be. eg, I were only doing 3 pitches, I'd probably put them each a fifth apart to cover more range in fewer recordings. But with 5 pitches I have them a major third apart to give a smoother transition between pitches.
 

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