Again, that was not directed at you personally.I agree, but like you said, I just want to make songs. And my vb is private because I don't want others to use it anyway
As operating systems get updates, the program will stop functioning properly. Eventually it will become impossible to use.
CV...well, I'm okay with VCV, CVVC, VCCV, etc. but for beginners, they should start with CV first, and if it's bad, try to improve it, until they understand how to configure the voicebank properly. If they are confident with trying VCV and other recording technique, go ahead! It's totally good.
I think I'm not the only person who still likes CV, and it's true that CV is still, totally acceptable until now. I think that making a very good CV voicebank can take a lot of time and effort as well. Yet people's voicebank type preference is entirely different, so I don't know how to explain about it further.
Well, a lot of people make banks specifically for other people to use.
I feel like this is one of the issues that the UTAU community has, actually.
Most people are caught up in creating characters and voicebanks and hoping that somebody else will use them- oh, senpai, notice me!
I've kind of fallen out of this. The reason I make reclists and banks and such is because I personally want to use them, for whatever reason.
This is MUSIC software, but not enough people are actually making MUSIC. They're hoping and hoping that somebody else will like their UTAU and do it instead. It's Someone Else's Problem and eventually that Someone Else ends up not existing. We gotta take charge in creating content.
Popularity in the fandom... The hunt for being internet famous will definitely kill enthusiasm in the newer/younger ones of the community if perspective isn't kept:
- UTAU's been around since 2008/2009. From then til now is a long time to not be around, and even just dropping off for a couple years and returning can kill whatever momentum you had going.
- You're sharing attention with 4,000+ UTAU. Yes, some of these are only famous for longevity (Vippers), rarity (Nana and co., Matsudappoids), or due to being jokes (that green haired maidloid who's name I can't recall; and again: Vippers), while others come from out of nowhere and become overnight successes. I would say the chance that there is to get popular beyond your friends is... 1 in 5000. Not to say it can't happen, but it takes a lot of dedication and time on the UTAU creator's part and you can't just think that it's: record VB +oto + demo it once or twice = profit.
I agree with @Adlez27 that we need to remember that it's music software first and foremost. If you're not a natural musician, there's nothing wrong with that. There's plenty to do as far as artistic expression with UTAU even if it's not instrumentation or voicebank creation and if people could actually work together - like, really work together, not just have ideas that never get off the cutting room floor - then I believe things can actually be accomplished so that things don't remain stagnant or die. UTAU is... the best vehicle for collaboration if people moved beyond simply having ideas and making them something tangible.
There's plenty of ways to work together towards a common goal; you can look at the credits of your average producer (assuming they're not a one man band):Sorry, but what exactly do you mean by working together? (I am really stupid and slow, again sorry)
tbh I am, im worried that we will become like vocaloidotaku, very toxic(we are already halfway there)
Personally I'm more worried that UTAU hasn't been updated since 2013. Unless I'm wrong- though- You have to remember that a lot of the UTAU community come right from the Vocaloid community so they will continue to go hand in hand and swap active users.Things seem to have reeeaaalllyyy quieted down in the last few years. Members that haven't been active in a year are still at the top of "notable member" list. I'm seeing a lot less from the people who had high-quality banks and/or were very popular. At least two UTAU users have now gotten Vocaloids (Macne Nana and Ruby, voiced by Misha), and who knows, there could be more. It's seeming easier (feels weird to say that considering it still is extremely difficult) to "become" a Vocaloid, but with the flood of releases following V3 and V4 it's starting to seem to me like people will just start getting Vocaloids left and right. A popular UTAU user even got to design a Vocaloid (which certainly isn't the same as voicing one, but still.)
That being said, that's just it; popular UTAU users are getting these chances. So you'd hope that that would mean UTAU actually gets a big surge of people trying even harder now that there's been fruits of these efforts!
Anyway, was just thinking about this because the people I used to talk to and do UTAU collabs with have stopped using it altogether (and as such our own friendships have tapered away...) so I worry that I won't find any solace in it anymore if I'm just doing it by myself, you know?
Kind of a rant. Sorry about that.
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