A bit of advice for people who are new to recording.

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  1. Pyremageyun

    Pyremageyun Teto's Territory Defender of Defoko

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    Hey guys, I'm not entirely sure if this is the right place to post this but I thought I'd pass on a bit of wisdom to people who are new to the recording biz. (This can apply to recording audio for videos as well.)

    This me assuming if you were in the same boat as me finding out about utau and vocaloid on your own and really want to record your first voicebank...but didn't have any irl friends who shared the same interest to help and had to rely on people who made videos on the subject and were too shy to leave a comment to ask them questions and you were recording in your normal voice.

    Let's say you understand all the characters to record and how to pronounce them, know what pitch to sing in and ready to begin. As soon as you hit that record button to record the first wav file.....you freeze...stop the recording ....and restart get the sound correctly....but you're not sure if its good enough or if its the exact tone you want. So you keep trying to record that same thing until you get it the way you want it. GREAT! but then you get the sense of dread of being able to get that same tone as the first....and then you start questioning your voice again....Well Don't!....Because what is happening there is that your brain is trying to trick you into thinking you have a terrible voice when in actuality. Everyone has a unique and beautiful voice EVEN YOU!

    The Reason why our brains makes us think that our voice is terrible and that we shouldn't sing or record is because we constantly hear our voice when ever we talk to people..and sometimes to yourself when your deep in thought. In fact, in actuality of the whole "god i can't stand how that guy sounds" spiel...the real sound that's annoys us is our own voices and we really don't realize it until we start recording ourselves and listen to the playback for the first time. But that doesn't mean you should keep your mouth shut and give up on the idea of recording.

    So how do we combat these thoughts of self doubt when recording. For me, I yell out loud "I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE VOICE! F**** YOU BRAIN!!!!".....But sometimes, practicing the pronunciations and easy to remember songs helps too on the sidelines before recording. Really it all depends on raising your self confidence and how you execute raising it.

    Now on to the next bit. Otoing and finding out how powerful your Utau can be. There are plenty of tutorials on how to oto UTAU...but that leaves the question...."how powerful is my utau? what is my utau's range?" There's a song that was recently released that i personally think is a good test song to see how powerful an utau is range wise. "Otome Dissection by Deco*27" it has a good range of notes and a really high note to see if your utau can hit it with no problems and I would recommend if you're not familiar with tuning or editing notes to use Tanjiro's ust. If you are familiar with tuning and editing notes use Mocha/Lui' ust. Reason why I suggested both of their usts is because everyone has a different way of recording UTAU (They might use the same reclist yeah but more than likely they might add a few things to reclist to spice things up).

    When I oto, I like to do the first few lines of the song until either the first long rest (or incases of songs that doesnt' have long rests and keeps going I'd say stop after the 5th or 6th line.) and play those lines that I otod to make sure that they were otod properly, and when I get a sense of self doubt...render the ust without any flags (even if it's just a few lines) and then mix that line into the song and hear how it sounds...and yes, there maybe a bit more self doubt because it's just the main vocal but when you save the ust and open up the harmony render that and mix it into the song (in this case trying to make it sound like duet but the harmonies lower but still audible) Sometimes the harmonies can help erase the self doubt, another reason why I recommend Otome Dissection as a test song..and once those doubts are gone, oto the entire voicebank....just don't do what i did and only oto song after song after song XD
     
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    Pyremageyun Teto's Territory Defender of Defoko

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    I apologize again if I posted this on the wrong thread, I thought this might be a more self-confidence booster to help people starting out....
     
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    partial UTAU English advocate Global Mod Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    This is absolutely a confidence booster and it's the sort of thing this community desperately needs. Thank you for taking the time to write a message like this for the people deep in self doubt. They may one day stumble across this thread and their passion to record or do UTAU related things might be totally restored. It's a powerful thing to do that to somebody.

    This is a much needed thread!
     
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    AmberTonnerre Ruko's Ruffians Defender of Defoko

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    Thank you I really appreciate your post!! I've been attempting to make an utau on and off for around two years now and I've never been able to do it.

    My notes always sound wrong or I just don't like how my voice sounds and its hard for me to not just delete the whole bank because of my frustration.

    I think that I'll give it another shot soon and maybe this time I'll finally complete it. I don't know but thank you.
     
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    It's something that I've learned during my long hiatus from Utau and being more focused on Vocaloid and other things..... and being away from my dad for about a year (being away from my dad is a whole nother story for another time in another thread :/)

    Like everything else in life it takes practice. Hell I knew a few people in real life that struggle with being tone deaf and they were still good at singing, Sure they may needed a little help by listening to another person sing the same line over and over until they get it. BUT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!

    hmmm....my best advice is to use OREMO to record the voicebank...I can't remember which bgm guide I used to record my VCV (I think it was the VCCV english bgm guides because it had just the right amount of piano keys for a 5 mora >.<;; plz forgive me my memory isn't the greatest it was a year and a half since I recorded the vcv bank but was a bit lazy on otoing it.) If it's a CV bank I would still record in OREMO BUT DEFINITELY USE THE VCCV ENGLISH BGM GUIDE FOR THIS But instead of doing "Ka Ka Ki Ka Ku" hold "Ka" til you hear the second piano key (maybe 3rd i can't remember how fast those guides are) let the rest of the bgm play out and then record the next one.

    There's also something that' I've noticed while I was otoing that I'm not sure if anyone else notices cause it's rarely talked about but I don't know how to explain it in text form...it's that little yellow line that shows up after you "initialize the wav files?" (the thing that causes the circls to show up on the oto on the right side) and it kind of affects how UTAU sound if somebody added a natural vibrato to the file but there's a way to work around that without rerecording the file
     
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    I actually bought a mic and everything to record I even have oremo but only on my desktop computer. Unfortunately, my desktop computer is very old and makes static whirring noises which mess with my recordings so I'm having to record on my phone instead. Which is hard to do without a bgm guide. I'm doing cv by the way so at least i don't have a lot to record.
     
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    Ah I see.....I feel like there was a way to fix that issue cause I had the same thing except my desktop was newer. but I can't quite remember at the moment (head kind of hurts at the moment huge ice chunk fell on my head and almost lost conciousness x.x;;...) something to do with updating a driver that the mic is plugged into.....
     
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    If I'm lucky enough to find a solution then maybe it would be easier but for now I'm sticking to using my phone. Also I hope you're okay I'd go to a doctor if I were you.
     

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