Letting off Steam

Discussion in 'Chit-Chat' started by Sors, May 9, 2017.

  1. Sors

    Sors Meiji Master Tutor Defender of Defoko

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    Now, a lot of people are angry on this forum; i myself am often. And well, to let the anger go away, we need to let off some steam, so I made this thread! Post anything that annoys you, angers you, or is just a pet peeve, similar to the 'UTAU things that turn you off' thread; tho with a broader range, and with certain rules:

    - don't mention a certain user: If a certain user sets you off or just annoys you, feel free to let your steam off, and tell what annoys you...but don't mention his name; just because you're angry, doesn't mean anyone has to be angry at that person!

    - don't be offensive: by this I mean any offensive slur; don't go out offending someone, don't call someone the f word, etc.!

    - don't shame anyone: this applies especially to furloids, since they are a common target for kink shaming; if you don't like them, its okay, tell us, but don't go around saying 'furries are disgusting eww'!

    - don't whine: this is to let off steam, not to whine about the fact that your mediocre cover using ritsu from 7 months ago only has 5 plays on soundcloud.

    With that said...feel free to let some steam off!
     
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  3. Animé Fan

    Animé Fan Head of the Shonen Academy Defender of Defoko

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    Folks who know me well on dA might know that I created a little [somewhat private] organization known as the Shonen Academy, where the slogan is "Where Young Boys are Given a Chance to Spread their Wings and Shine". It was originally made in a way that'll help me express my interests in working solely with young boy characters to others, but to no surprise, some folks misinterpreted as something else. That or they must've not read that the group is only for boy characters, yet I've got folks asking to join when (based on their profiles and galleries) they're really into older teenage or adult men and, worst of all, hardcore sexual stuff. Simply stating, those folks are into things I'm clearly and personally not fond of. As I do with all such encounters, I either politely decline or confront them, depending on how the situation seemed. However, no matter how hard I try to tell folks that I don't care about what makes them tick, they simply just won't listen or would even stoop as far as to mock the way I run things.

    Well, I guess some of that was my fault for even bringing up the concept in the first place, to which many are not afraid to call out and I clearly understand that. I'm not a perfect being and I'll never be a perfect being, but nonetheless, I still do what I do because I genuinely think young boy characters deserve better than what and how the world treats them. However, to prevent any more unnecessary conflict, I'm always forced to do all of this in hiding and in shame, whether for better or worse.

    I hope that didn't sound too harsh on others. People always keep accusing me for being to too harsh or honest with my words. :cry:
     
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  4. Hazu パワ

    Hazu パワ Weeaboo yet not Weeaboo Defender of Defoko

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    Let's see if we can do this with out no drama-

    -I hate when I see "Furloid" in the title of anything. You put things like "UTAU" and "Vocaloid" in titles to show what program you are using- "Furloid" Isn't a program, it's a character design- nothing more, nothing less. (Nothing against Furries)

    - I don't enjoy sometimes that the community is so against UTAU-Bank + Money, yet whines when they don't get something how they wanted it FOR FREE. Mention anything related to having to pay for a bank and everyone loses their minds. (That's a whole concern of it's own, though) but I remember simply confessing that I would still get a Gahata Meiji English even if it cost money and everyone got super pissed off at me.

    -The ones who give off invalid information just to seem smart.

    -The "Most people just do this for fun" excuse. Look- there is nothing wrong with taking UTAU(All/any Vocal Synths) serious. I see making UTAU banks and/or using UTAU(or other Vocal Synths) as Art- and like art; it can be fun but it is also very serious and also expressive. So please stop using "Most people just do this for fun" as an excuse to bring others down or to tarnish other's ideals.

    - Second the ideals- When ever someone isn't well known try's to bring something new the mix they are usually instantly shot down with no questions asked.

    -Thinking that we are all in the same place. Yes, maybe we are all under 30(I think) But that doesn't mean we are going through the same stuff or that we all can afford or not afford the same things. Some people drop out, some go to college, some have a job and some can't get a job. SO stop trying to generalize all of us.
     
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  5. partial

    partial UTAU English advocate Global Mod Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    [Not related to UTAU or the forum.]

    It causes me extreme disappointment and anxiety to discuss Umineko around anyone. It also hurts me a lot inside to hold it all in. I simply want one person to at least ask, to at least.....try it.... The lack of attention (or even pretend attention! I don't care!!) from people who claim to be friends or family really make me question the authenticity of those sorts of relationships as a whole. Similarly, I also get tired of people asking how I'm doing, and either interrupting me to tell me how they are or interrupting to change the topic... I know no one cares about Umineko, which makes it hard for me to want to talk to anyone offline, as Umineko is the prime element in my life.... I at least attempt to learn a little about stuff my friends like. I just wish, for once, someone would do that for me. Umineko has shaped so much of my thinking and my world views, I can't imagine my life without it. Is it selfish to want even one person to genuinely take interest in this visual novel? I can't tell if my irritation and bitter feelings are valid or more of a product of my anxiety/depression..
     
  6. Sors

    Sors Meiji Master Tutor Defender of Defoko

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    Okay...time to let off my steam myself now:
    What makes me angry are just people who claim they're mutli talented; can draw "exceptionally good", produce "multiple" voices and tune and cover "amazingly'...while their art is at best mediocre, all their samples sound alike and their covers sound mediocre; with no tuning whatsoever, off pitch etc...

    I don't want to offend anyone, but honestly: get good, before you claim your good...
     
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  7. Kiyoteru

    Kiyoteru Local Sensei Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    Coincidentally, my internet mom recently convinced me to start reading the Umineko manga....
     
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    partial UTAU English advocate Global Mod Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    It's suuuuuch a fabulous story
     
  9. mallowkey

    mallowkey Ritsu's Renegades Defender of Defoko

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    [UTAU related]

    I just wanna get off my ass to actually work on utau stuff but real life is bogging me to the point i just fall asleep the moment i get home

    [NON-UTAU related]

    making merch for cons sucks when your fandoms are barely recognized or are slowly dying.
     
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  10. GARMuffin

    GARMuffin "im ded insayd" Defender of Defoko

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    - People who judge UTAU by art. Dude, UTAU is a voice synthesizer, not art synthesizer. I don't mind the art in a VB as long as I like the voice. I also don't mind design as long as it's not some sort of Vocaloid (or some character in general) copy imported into UTAU. I can handle some joke UTAU like this, they were meant to be jokes anyway. But serious UTAU ... uhhh...

    - When people judge an UTAU because of VB type. "Hey it's CV fudge no I'm not gonna use that shizzle" HEY. While you can say that you prefer VCV or CVVC, don't go hating on CV. It's where UTAU started. It may sound choppy but it's so easy to use, it's for the new UTAU users out there. Relaaaaax yo, we'll do VCV or CVVC... or both soon, so stop complaining and ya wait.

    - Quitting just because you got critique... huh. Listen, I do get critique, but I didn't quit. If I did, you shouldn't be seeing me lurking here and posting stuff in UtaForum. I asked for critique on my tuning, and someone said that it was unnatural and harsh, but did I go on a rampage and quit? Nope. I'm still here. Question: see the difference between "While it's a pretty good cover, it could use some more pitchbends, the vocals could be louder, and there's a little oto issue with the UTAU you're using," and "OMFG THIS IS THE WORST GO KILL YOURSELF AND NEVER COME BACK HERE GIVE UUUUUUP"? Obvious. In other words: we're not mean, we're trying to help you get better.

    For now, this is what I can say.
     
  11. Animé Fan

    Animé Fan Head of the Shonen Academy Defender of Defoko

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    I hope it's all right if I post another one. It's not UTAU-related, but I think it's one that I really need to let out.

    Everybody has their likes and dislikes; some slight while others passionate. I want to talk about one big thing that probably shaped me into who I am now; my strongest disdain in the entire world: people. Now when I casually tell others that, they laugh it off and rebuke with a snide remark; even my parents say to me "You can't hate people". Well, perhaps what I'm going to say next will prove otherwise.

    Throughout my whole life, I've been called the following: mean, crazy, aggressive, evil, The Beast, depressed donkey, a bunch of swear words combined with my real name, the list is endless. I'm sure everybody has their own fair share of awful experiences, but I'd like to share mine; more specifically, I want to talk about my worst moments if I'm allowed to, that is. The poor treatment started around my early years in fourth grade. There are many events I can recall from those days, but the most prominent one was when a bunch of boys were playing a friendly game of kickball on the wall. I'd usually walk around the benches because I'm a bit of a loner and spot their kickball roll in my direction and then it happened. One boy would pick up the kickball, walk right up to me, and shout "STOP TALKING TO YOURSELF!" before leaving and returning back to their game. It was not until a different boy would come at my direction, picks up the kickball, shouts "STOP TALKING TO YOURSELF!" at me, and leaves; the process continued for about most of the first trimester. Back then, I was told not to talk back or fight my bullies because I know that'll get me in trouble. However, the humiliation in fourth grade didn't stop there. I accidentally learned about how the middle finger represented the F-word around the latter trimester, which another group of boys took to their advantage and kept asking me "Who's Mindy?"; being the naive little idiot I was (and probably am to many others out there), I stuck up my middle finger and then the boys would go "Ooh!". My teacher then held me in for recess for "inappropriate behavior", which I had no idea about because I was actually never told of such a thing. In truth, it was because of the song "Where is Thumbkin?" that I learned about the middle finger, who was referred to as "Mindy" in the song. Back on the subject, the school principal punished me to do trash duty and with no lunch; I somehow got away with it by making sure the principal and head custodian doesn't notice me. Taking the fall for something that I had absolutely no knowledge about when it was clearly the boys who initiated it in the first place. That seems about fair, yes? Well, it must be since I was the only one who beared the blame. Was it just boys who made life hard for me? Nope! The girls got on my bad side as well, though their approach was not as bad as the boys and I unfortunately can't recall an actual time when a group of girls did me actual harm. The years of being taunted and insulted later persisted until my last years in college; middle school had cases worse than elementary school. I mean, who doesn't hate their middle school years?

    Since then, I became more withdrawn from and weary of other people; I still am today. I have trouble communicating with others due to fear of messing up and being judged or accused of things I'm not, come off as rude because all of my previous first encounters were of boys sneering and girls tittering, and no longer had any reason to genuinely laugh or smile since smiling when you're really down in the dumps is not being true and having to be forced to smile is just as worse. For example, even if someone were to say "Hey! How's it going?" in the friendliest manner, I wouldn't be able to keep the conversation going due to uncertainty about whether or not the person was actually friendly and my perspective on people as a whole was set. Believe it or not, I actually started out as a social butterfly just like my mother, but those particular years eventually diminished me into the social outcast I am now and why? Because other people made me this way. In all honesty, I just want to tell people that they make me feel awful about myself, they're the main cause of my pain suffering, and that if they're going to continue to do or say they know will upset me, then they should just go away and leave me alone. But because I'm too aware of people and their actions and words, I'm not allowed to say such things even privately to myself because I fear and know people will accuse me of being immature or selfish.

    I can really go on about these thoughts, but I think I'll stop here. Everything I said here is true and actually happened to me, though others will probably think I'm telling a tall tale. I don't want another confrontation, if anything, I hate confrontations yet I always get dragged into them. So whether or not my thoughts are acknowledged or not, I'm revealing them anyway in hopes of at least releasing all this stress, regret, and hatred that I've been holding for years.
     
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  12. partial

    partial UTAU English advocate Global Mod Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    I wish I could get off my chest what I really want to, but if I can't.
     
  13. Animé Fan

    Animé Fan Head of the Shonen Academy Defender of Defoko

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    In truth, I'm not supposed to let my feelings out because other people fear that they'll go out of control. Everybody, even my teachers and parents, discourage me to express my true thoughts and would always keep telling me to hold it in and smile, but what's the point in doing that if these feelings are just too genuine to push away? It really sucks that I actually let me toy with me like that and let them get away with everything.
     
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  14. Arissa

    Arissa Ritsu's Renegades Defender of Defoko

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    Really? :sad: awe...
     
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  15. aoi・kurt

    aoi・kurt Shoutbox Lurker™ Defender of Defoko

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    "OH NO A NEW RECLIST!1!!! BRING THE CREATOR DOWN!!"
    not uf related, just some places in general.

    Like, do you even know how much research has been put into a reclist?
    The need to keep searching for new ways to re-string lines to keep it efficient?
    Being VERY picky with your phonemes? You need different phonemes for different genres in some languages, mind you.
    Non-stop guessing and testing the right tempo to record a reclist by enslaving YOUR OWN VOICE so that it sounds as clear and useful as possible for others to use?
    And finding scholarly documents about SINGING phonology? Like, it's terribly SCARCE for MOST languages.
    The need to constantly UPDATE and UPDATE the reclist from an OMEGA ALL THE WAY TO AN ALPHA before releasing? (sorry i don't greek letters)
    ALSO, most reclisters tend to release reclists GUIDES because some non-native speakers just can't understand how to pronounce a phoneme and when a thorough explanation is given, "HEY I'M NOT NEW TO UTAU! I KNOW MY X-SAMPA". This is #1 annoy. I don't even get a thanks? And you knew how to pronounce it yet still asked me, a person who has not slept for days just to THOROUGHLY understand the phonology of a language? What am I, a joke?
    Or, maybe someone uses a language-specific system for the phonemes of a reclist and then extremist right-wing non-reclisters who just LOVE the traditional English CVVC system will burn you alive (not all sorry).

    bye sorry maybe not sorry
    also where im from, the title sounds like a profanity XD
     
  16. Sors

    Sors Meiji Master Tutor Defender of Defoko

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    Uhm...wat?
     
  17. aoi・kurt

    aoi・kurt Shoutbox Lurker™ Defender of Defoko

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    Understandable, have a great day
     
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  18. Arissa

    Arissa Ritsu's Renegades Defender of Defoko

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    I keep finding that I'm misunderstood... My intentions, what I meant by the things I mah have said, and oftentimes I'm not forgiven... It annoys me when people have the wrong idea or information about something, then refuse to see what they got wrong.

    (I don't know what to really say since I don't want to get too personal or waste people's time)
     
  19. SOHBlue

    SOHBlue Master of Doom Defender of Defoko

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    Relating to Arissa feeling misunderstood, I've been upset lately because a man I care about is very moody, often being depressed or mean. He has social autism so often times when I try to cheer him up he gets confused and nothing works.
    Since getting more saddened by things he won't talk to me about and a fight/temporary separation we went through, he's a lot more mean and impatient, often calling me dumb and even pathetic once. This, mixed with my anxiety and my own depression after another man I tried to help threatened suicide led to our fight and since then we haven't been able to be very happy together.

    I want to make him feel better, but it's like we speak another language. Despite being rather awful to me now, he had helped me after that suicide threat and kept me from becoming bitter, I love him for that and long for those days but now it's clear that with us both down we struggle to smile. I panic and run away, he pouts and pushes me. It's very frustrating.

    I'm thinking of drawing a little one shot manga about us and maybe even win a contest and get enough money to visit him, but I know it's not likely to happen and I'm scared of failing again. I feel like if he gets fed up and moves on, I'll snap. During our separation I sunk rather low, but that aside...

    I don't know either, also not trying to waste time or post poorly. Just needed to express it somewhere.
     
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  20. Mee

    Mee Momo's Minion

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    Tbh, i really don't feel comfortable saying anything here for reason i don't want to say and the fact that you can't delete your own thread on your own.
     

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