MP3/AT3 Voicebank Compression [Deleted]

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  1. Damien

    Damien Wannabe Worker Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    Damien submitted a new resource:

    Lame/AT3 Voicebank Compression - Compress your voicebanks to unbelievable sizes, uhuhu

    Read more about this resource...
     
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  3. Jeffrey

    Jeffrey local hiatus'er Defender of Defoko

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    slight edit: If you want to delete the LAME files badum tss, you can add these lines.

    Code:
    del /q lame_enc.dll
    del /q lame.exe
    del /q "decode mp3.bat" >nul 2>nul
    rem this is where the batch deletes itself. hopefully no error messages will pop up.
    i wanna know how to put progress bar, but forfiles won't let me
     
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  4. aoi・kurt

    aoi・kurt Shoutbox Lurker™ Defender of Defoko

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    in the year 3000, where utau voicebanks that were 300 terabytes are now 10 bytes
    in all seriousness, ill remember to use this when i make an utau! which is possibly never but who knows HA
     
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  5. Damien

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    *finger guns* Ayyyy
     
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  6. Melomad

    Melomad Ruko's Ruffians Defender of Defoko

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    I'm sending to yall boxes of love manifactured in France, it's the best quality love you can get.
    More seriously, good job it's sooo great !
     
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  7. Zoku

    Zoku heta-tan campaigner 2k16 Defender of Defoko

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    you are literally destroying the quality of your voicebanks
     
  8. _caustic_

    _caustic_ Very Gay in a Straight Way Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    This will lower the quality of the voice banks unnecessarily.
    Your compression recommendation of 10 is a VERY low bitrate that will completely ruin your samples.
    If you want to retain the full frequency range of the voice you should use something like FLAC which will give you 50% compression or better (usually better) and won't kill everything.

    Also this adds extra steps to extracting the voicebank that no one really wants to do.
     
  9. Damien

    Damien Wannabe Worker Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    I can see why you say that...
    All I can really say against this is that, I didn't hear a difference whenever doing my own experimentation. The initial uncompressed voicebank had the same quality as the compressed and then decompressed voicebank.
     
  10. Jeffrey

    Jeffrey local hiatus'er Defender of Defoko

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    hey damien we should do more compression thingies :D
     
  11. _caustic_

    _caustic_ Very Gay in a Straight Way Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    If you don't notice a difference then that generally means that the initial samples are already low quality to begin with. (or your samples have a lot of silence)

    There are better compression techniques that get you even better compression without destroying everything.
     
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  12. Jeffrey

    Jeffrey local hiatus'er Defender of Defoko

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    I admit, caustic, we didn't really test it on high quality voicebanks, nor we didn't really know the borders of high quality. The only thing on our minds are automated compression of voicebanks.
    I would want you to explain this, we need input that can improve our works.
     
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  13. Zoku

    Zoku heta-tan campaigner 2k16 Defender of Defoko

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    IIRC mp3 has been said by its own inventors to be (currently) the most common worst way to compress audio files even at its highest settings because the format is built on old knowledge and tech. they pulled support on it and while theyre ok with mp3 being used, theyd rather people use things like flac.

    so if mp3's own inventors dont really want ppl to use mp3 anymore because its lower quality inherently, why should you do it on voicebanks where people seek high quality samples in voicebanks
     
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  14. _caustic_

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    If you are going to add extra steps then it needs to be auotmated, most people just want to drag and drop the voicebank and be done with it.

    Also a 100-200MB voicebank is nothing. Worry about compression when your voicebank reaches 700-900MB.
     
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  15. Jeffrey

    Jeffrey local hiatus'er Defender of Defoko

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    okay, non-mp3 file that can compress in a lossless way, and automated conversion ala-moresampler style, coming right up soon.
    definition of soon: lacking experience, kind of hard, maybe next month/year
    we do still have the rights to keep this thing up, right?
    @_caustic_
    also, i did some reversion on the lame.exe quality control. The original is:
    0 = highest quality
    9 = lowest quality
    x=10-(input)
    so 10 is actually 0
     
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  16. Zoku

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    js compression is neat but you dont exactly need it in (relatively) small vbs, which most of us have.
     
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  17. Jeffrey

    Jeffrey local hiatus'er Defender of Defoko

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    what's js compression?
     
  18. Zoku

    Zoku heta-tan campaigner 2k16 Defender of Defoko

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    'js' is short hand for 'just saying'

    i was 'just saying' that compression is neat
     
  19. Jeffrey

    Jeffrey local hiatus'er Defender of Defoko

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    well, compression can help a lot like the place where i live, where internet is effing slow you can't bear to live
     
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  20. _caustic_

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    It's better to wait and get what you expect then to get something fast and inferior.

    Also with FLAC compression you should be fine.
    Or even simpler, if you use 7zip it probably will already get you there without extra stuff to do.

    Most voicebanks are big because people fail to delete star, platinum, spectrum, etc, files. Not just because of the actual audio content.
     
  21. aoi・kurt

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    am feel u
     
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