Rate this UTAU please??

Discussion in 'Requested VB Critiques' started by Kiera Brand, Nov 24, 2017.

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  1. Kiera Brand

    Kiera Brand Teto's Territory

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    I didnt make the cover my friend did~
    Please rate her.
     
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  3. Chasing Constellations

    Chasing Constellations Momo's Minion

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    Would you be able to give a download for the voicebank, or a vocals-only track? It'd be easier to hear her clearly! o:

    My first impressions from the cover are that her pronunciation is pretty much okay, I can't hear it very well but she sounds a little bit like she's mumbling? This could be the oto, a lack of clearing the UST, the pronunciation, or just me not being able to hear her well at the moment (probably that one aaa). Other than that, her voice sounds really nice!! She has a super cool tone, a little nasal but with good power available, and I would love to see other things done with her! I really like her design as well, the color scheme is nice, and her overall design is simple but memorable!

    I hope you keep developing voicebanks for her! I look forward to what you make!


    ps here's a small doodle I did of her - she's really cute aaa
    (feel free to use this if you want just like link to my dA page > http://celestrai.deviantart.com )
    [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah, she sounds a little congested.
     
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    Haha, I know. Sorry about that, I have a nose problem so 90% of the time my nose is blocked and i never take the steroids im supposed to haha. sorry.
     
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    partial 【VCCV advocate】 Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    I don't necessarily think her being congested is a bad thing. I think she's got a cute voice and a unique tone. If I wasn't exclusively using English banks, I'd try her out.
     
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    THANK YOU SO MUCH I LOVE IT! I think the mumbling is just the mixing, because i recorded her really strongly, but thank you for telling me! I can take it into mind when I get around to making a new one! I'm glad you like the design, its gone from some bad crypton design to that, and im pretty happy with it! And again, thank you for the drawing!
     
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    It's not necessarily a problem in and of itself, but there are some issues that arise.
    • Firstly, it means it's less-suitable in tone for certain songs; it's going to limit the potential repertoire of your voicebank, and that means reducing the amount your voicebank can be used. Anything really soulful or slow is going to sound especially out of place with such a tone. Some of this can be fixed with flags or mixing, but
    • Only so much of it can be fixed with flags or mixing. The saying is "shit in, shit out," which is to say that if you start with a poor quality recording, there's only so much you can do in post processing to correct it. You're much better off generally to take a nice, clean, "perfect" voicebank and then "dirty" it up using flags or in the mixing depending on the song.
    • It doesn't blend well, and has a "lead" vocal quality. This is an issue where In songs where you want to perform harmonies, or in duets or choruses, or any other time there's more than one voice at once. The nasal aspect, with a lot of high end and not much low end, is going to make the pitches interfere in some potentially not-nice ways. The voicebank might be fine at singing the lead part in a song, but won't be able to sing backup or harmony.
    That in mind, when I think about it my first and last points aren't necessarily a problem, depending on how you look at it. Yes, there's technically less that the voicebank is good at doing, but on the other hand, there are so many voicebanks, it's just as likely that someone will pick someone else's VB over yours for no reason, not "because it can't do harmony."

    ...That still sounds a bit dire, doesn't it? Let me put it another way: your voicebank having a few specific applications, rather than being good for general use, may not be as much of a hindrance to you as it would if there were real competition between UTAU voicebanks. (In short, there are too many voicebanks to actually have competition among them.)

    With that in mind, it might be perfectly acceptable to have a "specialist" voicebank that someone uses when they want a high-heavy, "lead singer" vocal track, and if they want vocals that harmonize well or have a different tone, well, they'll simply use another voicebank for that part.

    Ok, so I listened to the track again and realized that while all this stands true, it's... not actually relevant to your VB, I think.

    What I think your VB really needs the most help on is consonants. The tone is fine (it's a little bright IMO, but who cares), but the thing that makes it feel congested to me is that many of the consonants are deadened-- Denasalization. Which is exactly what you'd expect if your nose is blocked 90% of the time.

    Would you consider trying an experiment where you have someone record some consonants for you, then try mixing them into your samples? Otherwise, it may behoove you to take your steroids, if only to rerecord.
     
  9. RaccoonButler

    RaccoonButler Founder of The Church of Mawarine Shuu Defender of Defoko

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    I think they sound good aside from the slurry consonants (as in they sound a bit slow which probably is the oto if it’s moresampler generated.) I like their tone and would probably use them honestly

    ^I agree with the slight congestedness but honestly I think that’s a pretty overcomplicated solution.
    That’s just what happens usually when a bank is recorded with a strong tone but starts to get slightly out of it’s range because it doesn’t have enough pitches. (Lots of VBs are recorded with a purposefully nasal tone but don’t have that out of range sound because they have a good number of pitches, like Shione Lt or Gahata Meiji)
    A much simpler solution is just recording another higher pitch.

    Aside from that it’d Probably not be noticeable with good tuning and would probably sound just normal on harmonies if you duet them with the right vb/ mix them properly so i wouldn’t worry about it
     
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