Not exactly Utau discussion directly but nonetheless I feel as though people on the forum could maybe talk about it?
This is going to have some (a lot of) opinion in it. But this is a forum after all, a place for discussion and it's gotta start somewhere ;-) ...
So as we all know, SoundCloud is a MASSIVE gathering place for the Utau community. It provides as (arguably) "free" place for most of us to post covered AND short audio snippets and tests that are otherwise seen as unfitting to post to a service; such as the ever so popular YouTube.
Well in recent-ish news Soundcloud has been reporting a loss in revenue in over 44 million dollars. This puts the future of SoundCloud (given it's short and unstable existence) under question. They simply don't make money and who knows how long it will persist as a service in it's current state.
It was probably obvious, given the recent influx of advertisements in an attempt to offset the enormous number of free users.
I see one of two things happening:
a, SoundCloud dies, poof, that's it.
or b, SoundCloud makes a final move to save itself and ultimately ends up changing it's ideology. Perhaps shifting from a public streaming service to something akin to Spotify.
Either way, both of those pictures could spell a small disaster to the Utau Community (actually, the whole vocal synth community) as a whole.
So...what are our options?
I have looked into many different services one way or another and as it currently stands, to my knowledge there is absolutely nothing quite like SoundCloud. It's a very strange (and unhealthy) mix of social and audio that makes it so easy to observe and discover like-content. You want to find Utau content? It basically will give you it.
At some point MixCloud was possibly an option but recently it's more for producers and not for the causal schmo who wants to upload some random audio.
EDIT: correction, they don't do individual tracks at all. only things like radio shows, DJ mixes, track lists, and podcasts.
But we do have Clyp as a possibility. It was originally just Tags in search and that was it, most of the community is vaguely acquainted with it. As of recent Clyp.it now supports public profiles which allow users to explore an individual's content all at once (while still allowing for private profiles like originally) and also has basic commenting. If content is properly tagged then it should be easy to find too.
What are your thoughts on SoundCloud's state? Thinking that maybe it could be a potential thing to talk about.
In my opinion, if Souncloud does go, Clyp would be a good place to look. Perhaps it could be for the better, to help potentially break up the social disparity and make people look around rather than stick into small groups. How it would stand, the community would no longer be able to live on the site hosting the audio. Instead maybe the community would use the audio site to host the content and end up discussing it elsewhere. Using that "elsewhere" to find more content.
This is going to have some (a lot of) opinion in it. But this is a forum after all, a place for discussion and it's gotta start somewhere ;-) ...
So as we all know, SoundCloud is a MASSIVE gathering place for the Utau community. It provides as (arguably) "free" place for most of us to post covered AND short audio snippets and tests that are otherwise seen as unfitting to post to a service; such as the ever so popular YouTube.
Well in recent-ish news Soundcloud has been reporting a loss in revenue in over 44 million dollars. This puts the future of SoundCloud (given it's short and unstable existence) under question. They simply don't make money and who knows how long it will persist as a service in it's current state.
It was probably obvious, given the recent influx of advertisements in an attempt to offset the enormous number of free users.
I see one of two things happening:
a, SoundCloud dies, poof, that's it.
or b, SoundCloud makes a final move to save itself and ultimately ends up changing it's ideology. Perhaps shifting from a public streaming service to something akin to Spotify.
Either way, both of those pictures could spell a small disaster to the Utau Community (actually, the whole vocal synth community) as a whole.
So...what are our options?
I have looked into many different services one way or another and as it currently stands, to my knowledge there is absolutely nothing quite like SoundCloud. It's a very strange (and unhealthy) mix of social and audio that makes it so easy to observe and discover like-content. You want to find Utau content? It basically will give you it.
At some point MixCloud was possibly an option but recently it's more for producers and not for the causal schmo who wants to upload some random audio.
EDIT: correction, they don't do individual tracks at all. only things like radio shows, DJ mixes, track lists, and podcasts.
But we do have Clyp as a possibility. It was originally just Tags in search and that was it, most of the community is vaguely acquainted with it. As of recent Clyp.it now supports public profiles which allow users to explore an individual's content all at once (while still allowing for private profiles like originally) and also has basic commenting. If content is properly tagged then it should be easy to find too.
What are your thoughts on SoundCloud's state? Thinking that maybe it could be a potential thing to talk about.
From how I see it, SoundCloud seems to be doing a horrible job managing itself within it's own means. According to my backwards, sleep deprived, napkin math they have something around 200 employees for a streaming service which can be considered quite high.In my opinion, if Souncloud does go, Clyp would be a good place to look. Perhaps it could be for the better, to help potentially break up the social disparity and make people look around rather than stick into small groups. How it would stand, the community would no longer be able to live on the site hosting the audio. Instead maybe the community would use the audio site to host the content and end up discussing it elsewhere. Using that "elsewhere" to find more content.
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