Thoughts on Crypton type outfits

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  1. Arissa

    Arissa Ritsu's Renegades Defender of Defoko

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    So I was wondering since nowadays, most utau bearing a Crypton-type design would be looked down upon and even ignored, the reason for its popularity and acceptance back when UTAU was still fresh and new. Do you think it has something to do with the vipperloids and their popularity, or was this just the normal thing to put in a design?
     
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  3. Kiyoteru

    Kiyoteru Local Sensei Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    Yes to both, it was the norm to take inspiration from the cryptonloids and vippers. Nowadays people recognize than an UTAU is really an OC plus a voicebank. An OC can be anything, and therefore an UTAU.
     
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  4. Arissa

    Arissa Ritsu's Renegades Defender of Defoko

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    I figured as such, since a lot of the vippers had some element of crypton in their design, but now a lot of people say it's become overused over the years.
     
  5. Skiyoshi 十三

    Skiyoshi 十三 Lotus#12915 Defender of Defoko

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    It was likely very common, because people wanted their OC to look like a vocal synth singer. It's only natural to copy or take huge inspiration from the most popular, when they should try and put their original spin on it and think outside the box.
     
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    수연 <Suyeon> Your friendly neighborhood koreaboo trash Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    Back when the community was new, Vocaloid had just gained considerable traction with Crypton's CV series. Naturally, the first thing creators did to get it recognized was to parody the most prevalent example of the time: Miku and Crypton's mix of mundane school fuku + cyber/technical aesthetic. It's kind of necessary to give people something familiar when saying 'Here's a thing that allows you to do this without piracy or going broke! Now you can make your own Vocaloid-like voice!'

    Now, there's no need to cite the CV series for inspiration. There are so many unique Vocaloid that if anything, you look ignorant to the rest of the community and there's likely an unspoken stigma if you don't speak of or know about Vocaloids outside of the Big 8. It's normal progression that when a program starts to stand apart from and differentiate itself from its competitor, people start to move away from trends that used to be common. People get older, get more inspired and informed, come up with more original ideas, and they no longer feel the urge to play follow the leader or just be a copycat.
     
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    Wenyu Teto's Territory

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    EDIT: SORRY I JUST SAW HOW OLD THIS THREAD IS IM SORRY FOR NECRO-ING IT BUT I SOMEHOW CAME ACROSS THIS OOPS
    I think its wrong if you copy off an idea too much (cough cough those people who just give an outfit to their UTAU that looks like miku's but recolored or sailor fuku that looks like a combination of rin and mikus outfit cough cough) and a plain sailor fuku is a bit too unoriginal and quite frankly a bit boring.
    I think the arm warmer thing is okay and the skirt/belt chain is okay too. So are some neck ties. Thigh highs are also okay, they're pretty. Ive actually heard some people bashing on thigh highs as if crypton invented and owns thigh highs smh. These things i said previously are generally okay in my opinion as long as not too many of them are used together in a design( i mean yeah crypton didn't invent arm warmers and stuff but obviously if you have a UTAU OC who wears thigh highs, a tie, arm warmers together then yes its going to remind them of vocaloid.)
    So a few of the crypton accessories are okay to use but just don't rip off too much. then thats kinda like design theft.
     
  8. Yinitara

    Yinitara Teto's Territory Defender of Defoko

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    I don't think there isn't anything bad with creating something similar to the Crypton designs so long as people are innovative and add their own spin to it vs straight up copying the designs.
     
  9. kimchi-tan

    kimchi-tan Your local Mikotard Global Mod Defender of Defoko

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    Necroing is allowed in the forum and even encouraged! No need to worry about necroing threads :uhuhu:

    I believe that Crypton-inspired designs itself are bad rather that most people who go for a Crypton-esque look tend to handle deriving the formula badly which makes most people irk them. In fact, there are some amazing designs that are obviously Crypton-inspired such as Crecia Selestewa's Aster design which looks absolutely amazing :love:
     
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    partial Floating in a Fragment somewhere. Retired User Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    I'm a sucker for everything about Len Crypton designs, I won't lie. As long as the design has somewhat of a unique twist and the colors aren't absolutely blinding, I enjoy seeing Crypton designs for UTAU.
     
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  11. Arissa

    Arissa Ritsu's Renegades Defender of Defoko

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    lol even now ppl reply to this...!! >.< Interesting points, can't remember if I ever mentioned this, but I also thought sticking with the trend for a design would be rather limiting in trying to subvert from a common trend, since a crypto/miku-based outfit already has a piece of that commoness from the start. But it would be nice to see some people turn things around while still incorporating these elements(although I'm likely to be more interested in unique and original designs ^^; )
     

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