(Yet another) VSQ/UST Database Project!

Discussion in 'UTAU Discussion' started by Roenais, May 30, 2015.

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  1. Roenais

    Roenais Teto's Territory

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    If you're anything like I am (and I hope I'm not the only one...) then you might have been irritated by the disorganized nature, broken links and general lack of updates in a lot of the masterlists out there. Of course this is a huge generalization, I wouldn't be surprised if there was one out there miles above my attempt here, but still, I had a crack at it!

    Features of the site (so far):
    • The option to search and sort by song name, producer, language and more.
    • Songs listed alphabetically by English title (with a few romaji exceptions when it's the more popular title, i.e Senbokzakura)
    • A contact page for suggesting songs to be added, reporting errors and broken links, etc.
    • A pretty minimalistic and lacking theme so far, but in this week i've been working on it i've grown attatched to it, so...
    • 100 songs so far, adding more all the time.
    • All USTs and VSQs so far are credited, and due to personal preference I refuse to add any without it.
    I'd love for some feedback on the idea and what I've done so far, thankyou for your attention! Even if nobody cares for this or needs it, I'll still maintain it for myself if nothing else. ヾ(´∀`○)ノ

    >>>LINK<<<
     
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  3. Scottei

    Scottei Teto's Territory Supporter

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    This is neat. Will you add a feature for people to add their own VSQs and USTs?
     
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  4. Roenais

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    That's a good point, I'm surprised I didn't think of that before! I'm guessing the UTAU community are trustworthy enough for that, right? I'll try to find a way ASAP!
     
  5. OMGPingu

    OMGPingu Ruko's Ruffians Defender of Defoko

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    Great, although I noticed some USTs/VSQxs that are Engrish are labelled as 'English'. You should change it to Engrish for less confusion.
     
  6. Roenais

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    Ha, Engrish actually started as a joke label, but I guess It'll just be a full fledged language now. Which songs in specific do you mean?
     
  7. Zarsla

    Zarsla ENG-JPN UTAU User Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    @Roenais
    What about USTs/VSQs in other languages and mobile support,e.g. seeing the database on mobile devices and it not be so funky looking.
    But besides that I love it and thank you for making it.
     
  8. Pupperoni Pizza

    Pupperoni Pizza Ruko's Ruffians Defender of Defoko

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    I see that this is still a wip (this things really can't be finished because people don't stop making usts)
    I think it's pretty decent so far, the organization needs a bit of adjustment as itswa little clunky but other than that it is functional.

    While mobile support would be neat, because people don't use utau on their phones and usually don't download ust files onto them, It's really not important (and I don't know if what you're using supports that so I'm not gonna bother you about it lol)
     
  9. KNΞMΛTCS

    KNΞMΛTCS Just an UtaForum user Defender of Defoko

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    I think it would be cool to have a desktop client which could download the UST/VSQ(x) automatically, download the required voicebank (for Utau), and open it in Utau/Vocaloid. You could even have an Utau plug-in which would sync with the client and allow instant uploads of created projects and cloud storage.

    EDIT: I see that you want this to be more of a static database. That is not a great idea imo. It would be better to have it as more of a utau/vocaloid cloud service. If you need money for storage you could have a file limit for free users and than have a premium tier that would allow more storage. Also I think it might be a good idea to seperate the Utau and Vocaloid clouds (not completely, but have 2 databases and maybe cross-link them).

    EDIT 2: Although I'm not much of a web developer, I might be able to help a little with making a desktop client.

    EDIT 3: Even more ideas: I think it would be good to change the word "Karaoke" with "Instrumental", and also have a section that shows the usage rights for the UST/VSQX.
     
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  10. Scottei

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    That seems extremely excessive for just a UST database. Also, you would more than likely have to ask the people who made the USTs/VSQs if you could use them in this cloud service. If the creator declined, their USTs/VSQs couldn't be used at all, making it a less than complete database. I think that would be cool for a service where people could upload their own USTs/VSQs, but it seems unwieldy in the case of making an as-complete-as-possible database.
     
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  11. KNΞMΛTCS

    KNΞMΛTCS Just an UtaForum user Defender of Defoko

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    That's the problem. You're just trying to document every possible utau song ever and list it. That isn't going to go very far. It would be better to just start empty and allow people to upload their own files. A cloud service will be far more useful than a static list, in my opinion.
     
  12. Scottei

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    Then that would work great as a separate project. As for the database, you'll just have to see how far it goes in time.
     
  13. Roenais

    Roenais Teto's Territory

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    Oh jeez, thanks for all the feedback so far!

    For other languages I was thinking of listing them as separate entries, i.e how I have the two versions of Circus Monster, does that sound like a good plan to everyone? (Same goes for remixes and different editions of a single song.) As for mobile compatibility, I have to agree that I don't see much of a use for it, but maybe one day... there's bigger priorities at the moment, y;know?

    I do like the idea of this cloud storage thing, but it does have a lot of problems- especially the permissions. A lot of USTs and VSQs I have in the database are the product of people who just arent around anymore, and it's especially true for older songs and such... might be a good task for someone else to captain, but I think I'll just stick to what i've got here, personally!

    For now, I'm going to switch the Karaoke label to Instrumental (or maybe Off-vocal? I know that's pretty common) and try to make the whole thing be less clunky (even though I'm not sure what that entails...) I cant seem to get the option to add your own USTs and VSQs to work properly, but I might be able to have something that allows someone to submit them so I could add them, maybe. (Or just open the spreadsheet the file is linked to for the public to edit, who knows.)

    I'm going to start going through UST and VSQ creators to add their works, hopefully I can fill this with enough to be as useful as a static database can be!
     
  14. Kiyoteru

    Kiyoteru Local Sensei Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    Just a tiny opinion coming through. I personally think of Karaoke as "instrumental with harmonies" as in, you can sing along to it as a karaoke performance, while "off vocal" or "instrumental" is "song with no vocal parts at all"
     
  15. Roenais

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    Yeah, that makes sense, me too, honestly!
     
  16. Chianachini

    Chianachini Ruko's Ruffians Defender of Defoko

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    I like how this is organized. This is pretty small, but if it expands I would consider further splitting it into categories like vocaloid/utau originals, English originals, Japanese originals, anime OP/ED, game music, along with a master list. For now, I think it's fine and you've done a great job!

    As for uploading users' own vsq/ust, I would just add a request feature or just have folks pm you so that everything is credited properly, something I really like about this. Good luck, and I'm bookmarking this!
     
  17. Roenais

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    Ooh, I like the idea of the categories, I might add that once theres more variety in there!

    And yeah, I think that should hopefully become the main feature of the contact form, it is a lot easier for me to add all the songs myself to keep it all consistant and double checked, etc.
     
  18. Oda Hikaru

    Oda Hikaru Momo's Minion

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    I really like the idea. I'll try it for sure.
     
  19. Roenais

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    that reminds me, this isnt dead! ive just been taking a break to work on my own utau(s), but i'll begin updating it again once ive got them released.
     
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    Is this still alive? I think this is a wonderful idea and want to see it grow into something great! ^_^
     
  21. Roenais

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    y'know, i admitedly forgot about it entirely, but its something i might try and restart!
     

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