UTAU 4.00!

tady159

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@DianaTan I am not sure if this may be the reason, but go to your computer's regional settings, and check if your floating point symbol (or decimal symbol, I'm not sure how it should be shown) is a dot, and not a comma.

@Ant for me, modulation seems to work normally...
 

DianaTan

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tady159 link said:
@DianaTan I am not sure if this may be the reason, but go to your computer's regional settings, and check if your floating point symbol (or decimal symbol, I'm not sure how it should be shown) is a dot, and not a comma.

It is a dot but it still doesn't work =/
 

shinami

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I find it interesting and funny that they've been hanging around at the 2.5 and 2.76 and such for ages and suddenly are at 4.0. XD What happened to the 3.0 series? Eh, whatever, isn't overly important to know.

The fact that I'm hearing about all these bugs and problems really worries me. I think I'm going to stick with UTAU 2.76 until the community figures out more. I especially want to know if 4.0 is compatable with all the plugins and resamplers released for previous versions.

Oh, and also really huge for me, have banks that have proved to favorably use resampler still sound good with resampler? That very important for me because the UTAUs being made with my new mic only sound good with the current resampler (and M4 I hear, but Ameya is never going to release it sob; I know it's not a miracle worker but they still souhd decent in it).
 

diinyoron

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the new resampler.dll brings the "Failed to generate a wav file" window whenever I try using it for some reason.
 

IrisFlower

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Well I downloaded it and installed it~ I had issues getting it to install but that was my computers fault. xD

After a very quick run through, everything seems to be working just fine save for resampler.dll but I never used that anyway so uhh...

I basically was able to just drag all my voices, resamplers, usts and all that over to where I installed the new UTAU and everything is working. Was even able to change the colors without a problem. My only thing is I'm so used to certain things being in Japanese...this full English interface will take getting used to but it's nice having it.

But that's my assessment after playing with it for five minutes lol xD
 

FastSpeedy

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How can I get the English interface to work? I tried changing my system to another region, but it didn't change from the Japanese in the UTAU program. I also tried reinstalling it while in the other region; didn't work either.

Any tips? Thanks!
 

moonst4r

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Let me see the changes I could find.

The English interface is really good, covers the most important parts. I guess the most has changed is the resampler. Wow, it's a whole lot faster. It generates frq files a lot faster. I frq a VCV sample and it only took 5 seconds!

So far I only tried TIPs as an alternative resampler and wow, it's fast too. I like how it displays the progress of rendering a wav file like x out of x.
 

diinyoron

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okay, got resampler.exe to work. works like a charm with Diipu Neutral, and increases its range. removed a lot of static and demuffled Diipu Female. i have yet to test with other voicebanks

EDIT: Found a new function. now on Tools>Built-in Tools>Crossfade you can choose the volume of the crossfaded vowel
 

SakisCookie

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So, this shouldn't affect voicebanks themselves, right? I mean we won't find that some voices are incompatible with the new engine, right?
 

stormylullaby

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SakisCookie link said:
So, this shouldn't affect voicebanks themselves, right? I mean we won't find that some voices are incompatible with the new engine, right?
I just moved all my voicebanks to the new folder & so far, there doesn't seem to be any problems with them. So yeah, I assume no banks should present difficulties to the new engine.

I got the engine to work, no problems. It renders everything super fast, even fresamp. I'm also in love with the new resampler as well. Its high range is definitely a positive. No problems yet, but I just messed with it for like 5 minutes =3=
 

LupinAKAFlashTH

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In case you didn't know, the change-log is within the readme.txt that pops up when you first open UTAU.  It's in the folder as well, if you want to look at it.

The most notable additions are the automatic VCV conversion and the ability to show the waveform (if that's how I'm understanding the Japanese correctly).  However, next to these, in parenthesis, says, "registry benefits" which basically means you must have shareware to have the function.  (romanized, "rejisuto tokuten", with "rejisuto" in katakana, and "tokuten" in kanji.)

In addition, the change-log states that the UI has changed from Japanese to English, the rendering engine has been improved (greatly), there is a zoom button to the right of the horizontal toolbar, and if I'm reading this correctly (I haven't seen the inside of the program yet), then the UI is larger than the previous one.

There were no publicly released versions between 4.0 and 2.76, so there are no additional changes noted between them.

[30 minutes into making the post]
Okay, so, the resampler!  It's better.  It generates a lot of breath-like noise in the background.  So that must have been improved.  Also, general results for the resampler are closer to TIPS in terms of final timbre, but still retain the quality of resampler's older version, if not only a little bit.  However, sometimes vowels are scratchy, like the previous incarnation of it.  There is a new glitch with it though- BRE 0 is no longer a saving grace and will cause some voice-banks to soft-clip with the new resampler, as well as pop on some note transitions.  The result sounds fine with music (assuming your mixing is decent), but it might bother some people (like me) when working with it raw.  Also, the new resampler is better at resampling higher ranges, but the lower ranges seem to have mild difficulty (popping and soft-clipping is more apparent in the lower ranges if you're on BRE 0).
In addition, a progress bar made of ASCII has been incorporated into resampler (I'm not sure if this was added through wavtool or the resampler itself, but either way, it's still cool.)
 

Yue Nagareboshi

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On this topic regarding the new resampler.

It works with BRE much better:
- BRE90~98 makes strong voices into soft ones
- BRE99-100 turns into whispery voices.

I tested this on Mitani Nana, which is a strong voice.

[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/yue-nagareboshi/resampler-engine-in-utau4-0[/soundcloud]

I wanted to show how the UTAU engine is currently handling the BRE factor.

I am using Mitani Nana single sound library, since it's a strong voice to show the differences between changed factors.

The volume changes are made by the engine itself. The volume of the notes remains as 100.
 

shinami

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The one thing I'm curious about, since everyone keeps describing the benefits and cons of the new resampler and 4.0...are the differences worth installing it? Or with plugins, and possibly snagging the new Resampler, is 2.76 essentially the exact same thing? (In my house installing is a huge pain because only my parents have administrative powers and unfortunately are highly resistant to doing anything at all.)

Also, asking the people who have tried the new resampler, does it feel more like a replacement for old resampler or a new "resampler" all together? Since Kenji is comparing the new one to TIPS, I really don't think it's similar enough to the last one. I don't know, I can't express my thoughts on this very well.
 

LupinAKAFlashTH

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shinami link said:
The one thing I'm curious about, since everyone keeps describing the benefits and cons of the new resampler and 4.0...are the differences worth installing it? Or with plugins, and possibly snagging the new Resampler, is 2.76 essentially the exact same thing?

Also, asking the people who have tried the new resampler, does it feel more like a replacement for old resampler or a new \"resampler\" all together? Since Kenji is comparing the new one to TIPS, I really don't think it's similar enough to the last one. I don't know, I can't express my thoughts on this very well.

When I compared it to TIPS, I was considering the final timbre of the voice alone.
If you want the voice to sound something closer to how it would in TIPS without using TIPS, than the new resampler + BRE 0 is what you want.
Other than that, the new resampler is actually much more effective in terms of everything than the previous rendition.  In fact, it's worth the upgrade.

With plugins and snagging the new resampler, 2.76 is basically the same thing, with slower render times.
However, the upgrade is worth the performance boost.
Also, plugins are still usable in 4.0, you just need to copy your plugins folder over.

I would say install it.
But that's just my suggestion, there's new bugs and bugfixes with every release of anything. XD;
 

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