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UtauYork

Teto's Territory
@Rave

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asdfgfdhhsfd /hug

@Angel

;;;A;;; Really? I've already signed up for UO. It's kinda hard to navigate, though. I guess I could give it a bit more of a try.

@shinami

Welp. ;u; Looks like I'm giving it another try.
 

zipperworks

Ruko's Ruffians
Defender of Defoko
As sort of a response/addendum to Stormy...

I know I would personally love to get critiques. Not to say I don't appreciate every comment I get regardless of what it is, but I can't improve unless I know what I'm doing wrong, you know?

But at the same time, getting comments at all is so rare that I feel horrible complaining about what I do get.

At any rate, I used to try to go around to a bunch of newer videos with UTAU I'd never heard before and try to critique them. I can think of exactly one user who responded negatively, but that's it. I should really get back to doing that.
 

Rai

Teto's Territory
Not sure if this is rant worthy.
Lately I haven't felt like myself at all. I feel very much as though I'm living someone else's life. Not that anything has changed drastically or anything particularly bad has happened. It's just very odd and unsettling. Also I'm tired a lot more than usual.

On a seperate note, I'm currently dissatisfied with where my art is at the moment. I am attempting to change my style to something I feel happy with. Note I did not say improve - just change.
 

PandaLolii

Teto's Territory
Defender of Defoko
Rai link said:
Not sure if this is rant worthy.
Lately I haven't felt like myself at all. I feel very much as though I'm living someone else's life. Not that anything has changed drastically or anything particularly bad has happened. It's just very odd and unsettling. Also I'm tired a lot more than usual.

On a seperate note, I'm currently dissatisfied with where my art is at the moment. I am attempting to change my style to something I feel happy with. Note I did not say improve - just change.

Q A Q Awww, Raaaaiiii. -huggu- I know that feeling so I hope you'll overcome it~! <3 Also..I actually really like your style, just mentioning and not persuading! XD Ahhh, those long arts and legs. ; V ;b++

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I'm sorta sick of the bias against romaji ..or well, more "EVERYTHING MUST BE JP." I'm sure it's not new, nor do I only agree..but if I'm childish to say so, I think this is just as childish as those who oppose..
Anyway..I keep hearing "I must get JP locale to be better with UTAU!" Ahahaha. You're funny..oh wait. You're not joking? OH. The main reasons I can think of for JP locale is using all banks and physically being able to read JP. Otherwise..you can live without. I am. As for being fine with UTAUing, not UTAU choices. Oh. And oremo too but... It's like VCV, it's like tablets..no. It doesn't make you better. It helps you to do more. But. NEVER. "Better." You can work on that with you know..hard work? It's like it's something many people have not heard of woah! D8 So...it's pretty FREAKING stupid to hear someone say "You MUST get JP locale right now!!" Unless they care for those particular things and have a chance to but just aren't aware of how, I think you should..hmm I don't know..

LAY OFF. THANKS.

If it's totally irrelevant and they just have regular UTAU problems...gosh freaking-! I hate seeing "Is your locale in JP?" right away but the problems...DO NOT EVEN CONCERN LOCALE. If it's "Ahh, why won't Teto work?!?!?!?!?" yeah, explain about locale. But usually it's not even that. 8I And it's annoying to read in forum pages..and I'm not even the one asking usually.

I feel really ..I don't know, thought of as inferior? No... I'm not fantastic but with UTAU but I sure feel like I'm thought as total shit without locale changes. Because clearly I'm stupid as BS to not know that "everyone must have it LOL!!" I know what I'm doing still, kthanks. I know that I should edit, I know how to oto..hmm how is that possibly? LOL!! I actually try new stuff with the program and not rely on nonsensical things!! No way! This also goes to the people who do have ENG locale or whatever but give up since they don't have JP. Get the translation if you need it but otherwise, just play around. GOSH DARNIT. 8I Things in life won't just happen most of the time. You kinda have to do something in order for that to happen.

NOW LASSTLLYYYY, romaji use in general. URGG..the big offenders just appeared in my mind instantly but anyway. People. Discourage. It. As if it does not even count as Japanese. "No, it doesn't like JP enough. " WHAT IS THIS. WHO FREAKING CARES IF YOUR BANK LOOKS "OFFICIALLY JP." You think that's going to give you a better chance of a JP person using it?
Have you ever heard of thing called reality?
Last time I checked, they aren't aware of the characters until after DL. So if they find your UTAU pretty neat and cool enough to DL..I think that's a freaking good enough feeling. You know??? Jeebus, people don't seem to think things through. It's silly. But I'm not saying it's awful to encode with hiragana etc..but...seriously. If that's your only reason...you're not going anywhere.
Then romaji usts~ "DON'T USE THEM. THEY'RE SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE." How? How at all??? It's all the user. They can put just as much effort as someone would with hiragana. They can put more, they can put less. Huh??? Surprising, isn't it? Romaji VCV I understand a little more..lots of banks don't really support it but I can easily convert them...but uh, okay.

I'm not hating on people with JP locale. Not even in the slightest. In fact I know it can be hassle for being so restricted. But I would very much appreciate if people would get their facts straight. :I

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TL;DR
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT
STOP FEELING SO OBLIGED TO BE MORE INTACT WITH JAPANESE ANYTHING
AND DEAL WITH IT AND STOP WHINING NONSENSICALLY. :wink:
 

adriann

Ye Olde Fart
Supporter
Defender of Defoko
Yeah. Anime is not a style, first of all. 'Anime' is what VizMedia used to market cartoons and comics from Japan as something 'foreign' and 'cool' from the 90s. Anime and Manga are terms from the Japanese language. Anime (which is a foreign word in on itself in the Japanese language) is a Japanified version of the French word 'animé', which means 'to animate'. 'Manga' IS the Japanese word FOR 'comics'. (It's extra interesting because over there, they refer to American comics as 'comics' (NOT Manga). Funky!

But in any case. Anime =/= style. If you say that anime is a style, you're saying that Bird Studios (Dragon Ball, Dragon Quest, etc.) uses the same style as Studio Ghibli (Spirited Away, Howl's Moving Castle, etc.) No, they're absolutely not the same style. Bird Studios has its own style, birthed by Akira Toriyama, and Studio Ghibli has its own style, idk who started it there. Therefore, if you copied the way they drew Dragon Ball Z things, you'd be drawing in Akira Toriyama's style. Not "anime style". If you were copying the way they drew um Naruto, you'd be drawing in Masashi Kishimoto's style. Not "anime style".

Sometimes, motifs get passed around that, in xenophobic American eyes, are seen as "all those Chinese cartoons look the same", which, btw, indie Chinese animated cartoons are freakin' gorgeous, juss saiyan, but that's it: the /mainstream/ in Japan, the stuff that gets carried over here and made popular /here/ utilizes THE main characteristics that have "identified" what SEEMS to be a style.

Osamu Tezuka, the father of Manga, actually was INSPIRED by Disney's cartoons. Osamu Tezuka is always used as the person who really made a difference in the cartooning world in Japan and then the entire world. His style is inspired by Western cartoons. He said that Betty Boop was a big inspiration for him. Let us analyze Betty Boop: Big head, big eyes, slightly out of proportion, no nails (which btw in many Asian cartoons they INCLUDE nails so that argument was invalid) BETTY BOOP IS AN ANIME CHARACTER, according to the stereotypes of the so-called "style". And guess what, the Lion King? Disney had wanted to work with Tezuka, but Tezuka professionally refused. Tezuka made Kimba the White Lion. Look it up. And then tell me that I copied a style.

I need to add.

At least you don't think I draw "anime" anymore. Maybe it's because I'm a senior now. Maybe it's because you've gotten used to my work. Maybe it's because I really have matured in my work. I really can say that I've deviated a LOT from "anime" or whatever because, you know, I never DID draw "anime" style during high school.

Yes. My style was never "anime." Wanna know the best indicator of my style NOT being "anime?"

My style does not ****ing appeal online.

I can never sell commissions because people don't see my style as "anime" and people want someone to draw their character in "anime" style. People don't LIKE flat colors, specifically stylized drawings of their characters, no, people WANT something that LOOKS like "X" person's style.

My style does not appeal. It is not recognized as "anime."

Ya.
 

Fawkesy

Ruko's Ruffians
Defender of Defoko
UTAU WOES:
I feel disappointed. I thought my utau was really good. But I'm the only one who uses her, and I probably will be the only one to use her.
I wonder if there is something about her that people don't like? Is it her generic name? Is her voice not something you like? Will you only use her if I make VCV? Maybe it's me, maybe I come off as mean or something....I don't know.
Maybe people don't use her because I use so many other peoples utau, and they just ignore my covers and go for an utau they know and like.
I'm pathetic.

PERSONAL WOES:
My sister is getting married soon, I bought a dress to wear a couple months ago. I'm afraid I'm gonna be too pudgy to fit into it. I also got too pudgy for a cosplay, and I feel like crap. I WANT to work out, I just don't have the willpower to do it. No one encourages me, and that makes it even harder. I have quit drinking soda though, that will help my garbage eating a little bit. I wish someone would just help me.

Sorry for the crap, just had to get it out.
 

Myon

Momo's Minion
@Fawkesy
Ouuu man, your UTAU is one of the new ones I like a lot! And I'm not just saying this to make you feel better. I SINCERELY feel this way. :3 Saki's tone and timber is super cute--it's sweet and really youthful.

I think a lot of other UTAU users are really wrapped up in their own things, like making USTS or using their friend's UTAU. I don't think it's like "hey a new personnnnnn, avoid like the plague'. Folks just have those previous engagements, so they lose sight of newcomers and stuff.

:'C
NO MORE SAD, MMKAY?
 

faerimagic

Ruko's Ruffians
So I got sidetracked. BIG DEAL.
Stop making a fuss over it mom. Just because I went on Youtube for a little bit doesn't automatically make me lazy.
Jeez, stop checking on me.
It's a annoying, how you say "I broke your trust". It's not like I'm doing anything bad. I know what I have to do, I do it in my own way, at my own time.
Just stop it. It gets on my nerves.
Threaten me with confiscation as much as you want.
It's not going to work this time.

*puts on rebellious mode, booyah*
 
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dCatharsis

Guest
I hope this one is OK.

I hate when my sister treats me like I'm an inferior living being or when she's already assuming that I'm going to be a vagabond or poor because I'm going to study Visual Arts. Srsly, wtf dude!? You've studied Architecture (the thing you wanted to) and nobody gave a damn about that. Nobody treated you like crap because you wanted to do that, so you shouldn't act like an butt with me. :I
I know Chile has many close-minded idiots but most of them don't even act like that, pulling you down all the ****ing time because you aren't going to be a doctor/engineer/lawyer/psychologist/*insert career with many job opportunities here*. Srsly.
 

Zelfie Windwalker

Ruko's Ruffians
@dCatharsis: Sorry to hear that :/
I mean, seriously...?
Weird that we have such similar situations, though. (er... but mine can't exactly compare to yours, if that makes sense. Just the art-route/architecture thing)

Speaking of art...
I am an abstract minimalist, though not the black-dot-on-white-canvas type minimalist, and not the solid-blue-canvas abstract artist.

What that means is I <3 making white backgrounds, faded colors, lots and lots of negative space in order to make one thing stand out. I also like bold, thick lines and the sort.

My teacher is a tradtionalist. (lol is that even a word?)
Basically, he hates empty/white space, likes bright colors, and dislikes outlines.
You can guess where this is going.

My favorite work, I get bad grades on, and my least favorite work, I get great grades on.

I mean, I know that my AP portfolio won't take me anywhere, but I'm not doing it for the grades. I am doing this because I like making art. And I like making it my way, not someone else's way.

Playing someone else's game is something I'd prefer not to do...
 

SakisCookie

Teto's Territory
Defender of Defoko
Okay. You're my best friend. I love you with all my heart and I'm always happy when you're happy.

But...seriously. You got into the project that I auditioned for. I didn't. And, yes, I'm happy for you. I'm happy you get to work with talented people and be a part of a kick-ass project. Without me.

So can you stop talking about it?

I don't want to hear about how much fun you have at rehearsal. I don't want to hear how you and the other crew members are such wonderful friends now. Because it hurts. It hurts BAD. Maybe I'm being selfish. I'm sorry, but it just isn't fair, okay? It's not.

And another thing, stop freaking talking to them on Skype while I'm at your house! I mean, Jesus!
 

WhiteRoseMarie

Momo's Minion
): Just needed to rant because I don't have anyone online to talk about it with. . .*sighs slowly*

Okay, so, I've been trying to call Financial Aid for Southern Oregon University for a while now and have also emailed as requested. No response. Now the application for the scholarship is due tonight at midnight. I can't fix the application because I kept getting redirected to a stupid machine and no real life human wanted to talk to me. Not only that, but my Letters of Recommendation are on the school computer which wouldn't let me save them to my thumbdrive so that I could upload them tonight. So I'm pretty much screwed for this school and getting scholarships and I'm just so. . .upset. I've loved this school since I stepped on campus. I'm in love with the town. The people. Everything. And now this and I'm so upset that I'm sick of even thinking about SOU. I just want to say screw it to any of my dreams because I don't think they'll happen because it's so out of my hands.

To top it off, I end up wanting to go to EKU. Even though I've never been to the campus. And the fact it would mean moving again, across country. And I have to make my decision soon so that mom can plan. . .because she all ready wants to move out there. On top of all the SOU drama, I find out that I've won a scholarship at EKU all ready without needing to mess around with a stupid application. The applications there aren't due until April for other scholarships. A part of myself hates myself because I feel like I'm abandoning my family who has done so much good for me by taking me in here in Oregon when we lost our house. At the same time, a part of me feels Fate is trying to tell me that I need to go to EKU, and I feel so damn pressured that the thought of doing this makes me cry because I feel like I don't have a damn choice in the matter of my own education.

Maybe the main point of why I'm so upset right at this moment is because of the thought that I'm not going to be able to afford either. I'm screwed out of scholarships for one, and for the other I can't use the state scholarships from just graduating here. I know FAFSA says that I'm not expected to pay, but seriously. . .who does?

To top off my night, I just went through possibly the worst experience in my life. That's the experience of suffocating from a softball crashing into your throat at high speed. ): There's more on that in my journal on DA. . .if anyone wants to even know how that happened. It basically doesn't help because I need to write 4 small essays for my OSAC and, hurr, I'm still suffering and want to take a nap so badly but no one would wake me and I'd miss the deadline and be even more screwed.

In short, I'm poor, in pain and just sick of thinking about the future and sick of having to decide but not having a damn choice in the matters.
 
Okay, so, I don't know If this is really worth rant thread, and I don't think anyone's going to reply;; But it feels nice to let this off. First off, I am a complete and utter failure at Utau. I'm not fishing for compliments, Because I really really suck. Really. I can't oto well, or make ust's, or draw well. Second, I feel like I'm being ignored most of the time. Like nobody really pays attention to what I say, or cares about how I really fell, they just do as they like and don't consider how much it hurts me. Third, I stopped wearing makeup for a while, and more people told me how ugly I was without it. And I thought I looked better without it. And lastly, My mom. She almost died over the summer, and so I think I'm supposed to be grateful she's alive, But I don't know anymore. All she does is yell at me about being a failure. I'm only 13;; You could lay off, you know? And all this drama with stupid girls irl. And the boys. School is a horrible place, it really, truly is, A LIVING HELL.
Sky-chan is done ranting for today x3 Back to pretending I'm happy^^
 

WhiteRoseMarie

Momo's Minion
SkyStrawberryLollipop link said:
Okay, so, I don't know If this is really worth rant thread, and I don't think anyone's going to reply;; But it feels nice to let this off. First off, I am a complete and utter failure at Utau. I'm not fishing for compliments, Because I really really suck. Really. I can't oto well, or make ust's, or draw well. Second, I feel like I'm being ignored most of the time. Like nobody really pays attention to what I say, or cares about how I really fell, they just do as they like and don't consider how much it hurts me. Third, I stopped wearing makeup for a while, and more people told me how ugly I was without it. And I thought I looked better without it. And lastly, My mom. She almost died over the summer, and so I think I'm supposed to be grateful she's alive, But I don't know anymore. All she does is yell at me about being a failure. I'm only 13;; You could lay off, you know? And all this drama with stupid girls irl. And the boys. School is a horrible place, it really, truly is, A LIVING HELL.
Sky-chan is done ranting for today x3 Back to pretending I'm happy^^

I couldn't help but to comment, and I hope something I say will help cheer you up. I put in spoiler to keep the comment smaller.

All things come with time. I was horrible with Utau too. I didn't know what I was doing and every effort really messed up. It got to the point where I felt really bad about it and even felt a lot of sadness about my friend being really good with it and me sucking. But. . .give it time. Take a break and browse resources. Come back to it when you're feeling better about it. It takes practice and patience. You'll get there. Just one step at a time. That's the same with drawing. No one's good when they first start! It takes awhile. Just keep at it and be patient with yourself.

I know how you feel about being ignored. I've felt the way a lot. Just remember that there's people that think you're the world to them - even if you don't feel you are.

I bet you look beautiful no matter what. Make up doesn't make beauty, it only enhances what's there. If you look beautiful with it on, then that means you were all ready beautiful without it. Don't do for others. It's your body and you should be the only one that matters in concern to your beauty.

As for the mother thing, I'm sorry. You should feel glad you still have her, but maybe you should talk to her or someone close about the things going on with her. I know that those things can be hard, especially when it feels like people are telling you how much you fail, but just keep remembering that you're thirteen and these things get better. School will get better, boys will mature with time and the drama will actually disappear. I promise. It just takes time. . .and I don't think there's anyone who doesn't have to deal with these things and nearing the end of my highschool career, I'm willing to help you. If you ever need someone to rant to, I'll listen.

And this stuff is totally worth the rant thread dear! That's what it's here for!
 

cupcakuu

Momo's Minion
UtauYork link said:
I figured that I could try to vent here for once.

I wish I could go back home. I feel completely trapped here and knowing that me and my family were practically forced to leave our old home, I can't help but feel an extreme hatred for this place.

For UTAU, I've been wanting to make friends throught the fandom for almost a year now and I haven't succeeded once. How do other people make so many friends in a week when I've barely made one? ...Probably not even that. How come I constantly feel like I'm ignored? Not only here, but at school and just... everywhere. I guess I naturally fail at making friends. I still haven't made any friends since I moved out of state three years ago.
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/sob
;A;

This is me. Like all the way. ;n;; /hugs
 
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dCatharsis

Guest
Zelfie Windwalker link said:
@dCatharsis: Sorry to hear that :/
I mean, seriously...?
Weird that we have such similar situations, though. (er... but mine can't exactly compare to yours, if that makes sense. Just the art-route/architecture thing)

Speaking of art...
I am an abstract minimalist, though not the black-dot-on-white-canvas type minimalist, and not the solid-blue-canvas abstract artist.

What that means is I <3 making white backgrounds, faded colors, lots and lots of negative space in order to make one thing stand out. I also like bold, thick lines and the sort.

My teacher is a tradtionalist. (lol is that even a word?)
Basically, he hates empty/white space, likes bright colors, and dislikes outlines.
You can guess where this is going.

My favorite work, I get bad grades on, and my least favorite work, I get great grades on.

I mean, I know that my AP portfolio won't take me anywhere, but I'm not doing it for the grades. I am doing this because I like making art. And I like making it my way, not someone else's way.

Playing someone else's game is something I'd prefer not to do...

Unfortunately things are like that in my life ;_; but mom and dad are supporting me.
Yeah, many (dumb) people told me to "be like my sister". Visual Arts, Design and Architecture aren't the same thing, dammit. :/ I know how you feel.

About your rant...wow, your teacher is WAY TOO traditionalist.
My art teacher in school loved anything (even anime) but conceptual art. He thinks conceptual art is kinda mediocre (he loves dadaism, though). Good thing I drew anime in my school years, lol.
I hope things go better for you, and don't change your art style if you don't feel like doing it. Sometimes the most "rejected" or criticized people is the most succesful. (Sorry if I can't explain myself well, I suck at explaining stuff in English, lol)

Oh! and I want to add a little rant. It's more like a confession, but anyways.
I don't know how I'll make my webcomic. I absolutely don't know anything about comics. But I want to do it so badly....it's one of my life goals.
Plus, I'm tired of doing crappy lineart. My hand is so shaky that it tooks me, like, 3-4 hours to lineart just one character. It sucks :sad: I'm already slow for drawing traditionally so I'm slower drawing digitally. I'd do it traditionally but my scanner doesn't work. Please God/Buddha/Allah/Flying Spaghetti Monster give me patience ;AAAAAA; waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
 

IrisFlower

Precious Flower with Thorns
Supporter
Defender of Defoko
Saki, sweety, I'm sorry to hear that. ;n; I know I probably can't say anything to make it better but I do know how you're probably feeling and if you need someone to talk to don't hesitate to contact me.
 

shinami

Procrastination Queen
Tutor
Supporter
Defender of Defoko
Oh my gosh Saki. ; A ; I don't know how to put my sympathy in words.
Just know the community is here to help in whatever way you can if you need it.
*huggles forever*
 
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