Creating UST's

[Galuxius]

Is it worth creating an entire english VB to do phrases in songs?

Also, when making UST's are there any tutorials to help time the UST?

I'm still new so any help would be appreciated!

~Woof~

 

[Ant]

Oh snap, I just finished making a UST, I was thinking about screencapping it and doing a tutorial, but it's too late now. All that's left is pitchbends, which I suck at. OTL

As for question A, nah, it's not. Engrish is just as good, people wouldn't even notice.

I'll try to explain what I do for USTs:
Making the MIDI from scratch:
1. Get the song as an MP3/WAV/whatever.
2. Put it in the timeline (i'm using FL studio) and create another track for the lyrics.
3. Open up the new track in the piano roll and choose a simple instrument like a piano or short synth to act as the "lyrics," or where they would go in the finished product. make sure the two tracks line up, and start placing the notes so that they match the singer in both pitch and placement.
4. When you're done, choose Options > macros > prepare for midi export, then File > export MIDI. Put it in a safe place. Open it in UTAU and start entering lyrics.

Then just make pitchbends and you're done. Hope that wasn't too confusing!

 

[SkyIsland21]

Oh snap, I just finished making a UST, I was thinking about screencapping it and doing a tutorial, but it's too late now. All that's left is pitchbends, which I suck at. OTL

As for question A, nah, it's not. Engrish is just as good, people wouldn't even notice.

I'll try to explain what I do for USTs:
Making the MIDI from scratch:
1. Get the song as an MP3/WAV/whatever.
2. Put it in the timeline (i'm using FL studio) and create another track for the lyrics.
3. Open up the new track in the piano roll and choose a simple instrument like a piano or short synth to act as the \"lyrics,\" or where they would go in the finished product. make sure the two tracks line up, and start placing the notes so that they match the singer in both pitch and placement.
4. When you're done, choose Options > macros > prepare for midi export, then File > export MIDI. Put it in a safe place. Open it in UTAU and start entering lyrics.

Then just make pitchbends and you're done. Hope that wasn't too confusing!

Don't forget the tempo, that's an integral part in making USTs, or anything related to music. I use this.

 

[shinami]

Ant is pretty much right. I say if a song is half or more english, an english bank would be great. Like as an example the song Garden of Everything - sure the lady sings Japanese all the choruses, but the guy is English, and even the lady sings in English here and there.

I personally dislike making USTs from MIDIs powerfully. I tried it. Didn't like it. Never tried again and have been happy with just making them from scratch.

Now, I'm just going to copy/paste what I said on a very similar thread adressing finding BPM and UST making. Try what I say, try MIDIs, and see what floats your boat.



Here's two things I want to say on this matter:

1) I dislike "tap for bpm" finders. They can be innacurate. Instead I use a free software called MixMeister BPM Analyzer; just Google it and you can easily find it. Just open it, direct it to the folder the off vocal is in, and use the number it gives. Some songs have tempo changes, but it's very very very rare in Vocaloid, but in those cases you have to split the song into the parts.
So yeah, much much much better than just tapping.

2) This really helps with USTs.
UTAU is arranged like music. There are four smaller lines that are contained with a thicker line - four beats to a measure (For waltz beat you can go to View and change to 3/4 for waltz time). After you observe that, observe other USTs. For the most part songs have very solid rhythms and note lengths. And this is applied to UTAU.
So all in all, you use notes to fill in either half of one beat, a fourth, the whole thing, etc. I use Length to edit that.
480 - one note (a whole note)
360 - dotted half note (1/2 + 1/4)
240 - half note
120 - quarter note
Those are the base lengths. BUT there's technically a base of "60" - you can use 60 for an eighth note, 300 for an odd rhythm, etc. If you want a very quick consonant end, like sometimes in Japanese they say "kak" when in romaji/hiragana it's "kaku", use 30 or 15 but be sure to take it off of the preceeding/following note to keep to perfect time.


...Woah music rant.
But yeah, basic math/music knowledge is all that's really needed to make USTs from scratch. That's what I do.

 

[Ant]

[quote author=Ant link=topic=2934.msg21533#msg21533 date=1344028587]
Oh snap, I just finished making a UST, I was thinking about screencapping it and doing a tutorial, but it's too late now. All that's left is pitchbends, which I suck at. OTL

As for question A, nah, it's not. Engrish is just as good, people wouldn't even notice.

I'll try to explain what I do for USTs:
Making the MIDI from scratch:
1. Get the song as an MP3/WAV/whatever.
2. Put it in the timeline (i'm using FL studio) and create another track for the lyrics.
3. Open up the new track in the piano roll and choose a simple instrument like a piano or short synth to act as the \"lyrics,\" or where they would go in the finished product. make sure the two tracks line up, and start placing the notes so that they match the singer in both pitch and placement.
4. When you're done, choose Options > macros > prepare for midi export, then File > export MIDI. Put it in a safe place. Open it in UTAU and start entering lyrics.

Then just make pitchbends and you're done. Hope that wasn't too confusing!

Don't forget the tempo, that's an integral part in making USTs, or anything related to music. I use this.
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Oops, I can't believe I forgot about that. Like Shinami, I use an auto BPM finder. Can't find the specific one I use because it has a generic name and I forgot what it was called (the exe is just called "BPM").