CVVC English Recording -- American or British?

[Zoku]

Hello! I need some advice with recording. I plan to make an English VB for Zokune Ein, my UTAU. I'm wondering which accent I should use for recording, my American accent or a faux British accent. I learned from a singing tutorial some years ago (I can't find it anymore) that the reason why British singers sound the same as American singers in terms of accents is because we all sing in a British accent, consciously or unconsciously. This led to my conclusion, as of now, that I should record in a British accent and hope it will sound good. But, I need some input.

What do you do? Record English in an American accent or a British accent?

 

[amaterasu miya]

firstly:you should do what is easier for you
secondly:you should record in your everyday accent


i record in a British/Welsh accent, as i am Welsh, though my accent sounds quite 'stereotypically' British

this is what mine sounds like


as you can tell, my weird British Welsh hybrid accent thingymadoodle sounds odd in UTAU, but i recorded in my normal accent (yaaayy funny sounding R's xD)
a lot of CVVC's are american accented :3
so i'd say american, as a lot of CVVC USTs are made to sound american, it takes me a lot of editing to correct that to my own UTAU

 

[Zoku]

Ok! Thanks for the input! Your "weird British Welsh hybrid accent thingymadoodle" sounds great, not weird, to me. With some tuning and envelope editing, I think it would flow very nicely and sound perfect. I feel that I should do an American-British hybrid accent... But maybe I'll do that and an American accent one to compare.

 

[amaterasu miya]

Ok! Thanks for the input! Your "weird British Welsh hybrid accent thingymadoodle" sounds great, not weird, to me. With some tuning and envelope editing, I think it would flow very nicely and sound perfect. I feel that I should do an American-British hybrid accent... But maybe I'll do that and an American accent one to compare.

good idea!
also, if there are sounds in your accent that aren't in the reclist, add them in, if you want :3
like I added Welsh consonants to mine, if i ever wanted to use them :3

 

[Zoku]

good idea!
also, if there are sounds in your accent that aren't in the reclist, add them in, if you want :3
like I added Welsh consonants to mine, if i ever wanted to use them :3

What kind of extra consonants do you have?

 

[amaterasu miya]

What kind of extra consonants do you have?

i added 'll' and ch (though i named it cch because the english ch is in there too)
as well as an exaggerated 'ng'

 

[Kiyoteru]

The Chezzie CVVC list that everyone uses for English is optimized for American English.

Having used English in both UTAU and vocaloid, there are a LOT of differences between the phonemes of American and British.

 

[amaterasu miya]

The Chezzie CVVC list that everyone uses for English is optimized for American English.

Having used English in both UTAU and vocaloid, there are a LOT of differences between the phonemes of American and British.

when i was recording mine, i just said them in my accent, it sounded fine to me
like
i rolled the R's that i would normally roll (mainly the R's after other consonants, like 'frA'
instead of the @ and & being American sounding, i said 'at' and recorded using the 'a' sound i made in the word 'at'
and i said 'and' and did the same thing
with '3' , instead of saying 'urrrrr' i said 'uhhhh'
for '6' it was a very similar sound, like 'uuuuuh'
for '8' it was a challenge because i personally nasalise that kind of sound
for 'Q' it was pretty easy
for '1' it sounds more like 'ih' and 'eh''s lovechild

 

[수연 <Suyeon>]

The Chezzie CVVC list that everyone uses for English is optimized for American English.

Having used English in both UTAU and vocaloid, there are a LOT of differences between the phonemes of American and British.

Which is why Vocaloid English always sounds so... off to my American ears cause they use a combination of American and British (those over pronounced Rs and really strong ending consonants) most of the time.

 

[amaterasu miya]

those over pronounced Rs

i agree completely, with me being british, i'm not really used to hearing R's at the ends of words, but in VOCALOID, its REALLY strong and i find it horrible to listen to

 

[Xuu]

If I ever do end up recording in English, there's no way I can do an American accent so it'd be with my dumb Yorkshire English Accent, which make everything sound a little slurred otl
I'd just go with what you can do best, it's typically the way to go.

 

[amaterasu miya]

If I ever do end up recording in English, there's no way I can do an American accent so it'd be with my dumb Yorkshire English Accent, which make everything sound a little slurred otl
I'd just go with what you can do best, it's typically the way to go.

thats how it is with me!
i cant do an american accent to save my life, so it sounds all north welsh-y xD
i think a yorkshire sounding UTAU would be cool (i have a lot of family from yorkshire, and i go into Chesterfield a lot to visit family)

 

[Xuu]

thats how it is with me!
i cant do an american accent to save my life, so it sounds all north welsh-y xD
i think a yorkshire sounding UTAU would be cool (i have a lot of family from yorkshire, and i go into Chesterfield a lot to visit family)

heh I'm in Sheffield so that's cool eue
Uchuu has like, a bit of a Yorkshire accent, so the bank would fit \o/

 

[amaterasu miya]

heh I'm in Sheffield so that's cool eue
Uchuu has like, a bit of a Yorkshire accent, so the bank would fit \o/

id definitely use an UTAU with a yorkshire accent :3

 

[Zoku]

I agree with the Vocaloid English comments, the Rs do sound weird. (Amazing, I've started a great topic //shot)

Thanks very much for the feedback guys, I've decided just to use an American accent for recording; though I talk very awkwardly, so it might sound like I'm exaggerating some vowels.

The reclist is so long

 

[amaterasu miya]

I agree with the Vocaloid English comments, the Rs do sound weird. (Amazing, I've started a great topic //shot)

Thanks very much for the feedback guys, I've decided just to use an American accent for recording; though I talk very awkwardly, so it might sound like I'm exaggerating some vowels.

The reclist is so long

there are lite reclists that make it easier
and Cdra's reclist i believe is shorter, but slightly more difficult to record

 

[Kiyoteru]

Using the latest released list is probably for the best though, even if it has more vowels than earlier versions

//I was so excited over the reclist updates when I used Aiko

 

[amaterasu miya]

Using the latest released list is probably for the best though, even if it has more vowels than earlier versions

//I was so excited over the reclist updates when I used Aiko

aiko is so easy to use!
i made an original with her xD

 

[Kiyoteru]

I'm still looking forward to [x] and [0] though

 

[수연 <Suyeon>]

Speaking of reclists, I'm reminded of the reclist I made last year (just never had a chance to record it).
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18s_5XcJko0XirN3Ihl7vPjdIG9qvCZBuVmUxEa945aQ/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uJR8ZMdKshDCGKRWqFlhEIjWmP5DRLP-UvyuQmglV7M/edit?usp=sharing
^ Pretty much the same, but more difficult cause it has more vowels.

And btw, an American accent really isn't difficult because there's no "standard" accent. Between 50 states, there's a regional accent for each of them and they all sound funny to people who aren't from that particular state/area within a state. Not to mention immigrants who come to the country - unless they were born and raised here and went through the K-12 educational system, they'll speak with the accent of their native country and for the most part, they'll be understood to some capacity.

- 35 English accents

If you don't have an American accent, don't force it. If anything, when you sing, the accent will become more or less neutral.