Lemondolly link said:
Self-promotion, I feel, is okay to an EXTENT.
For instance, it's okay if someone advertises their UTAU but if the only UTAU they only ever use is their own, then I have a problem with it(and I've pointed out a user that does that before)
And doing duets with their UTAU and another for me does not count as using another UTAU. :T
Do you mean using their UTAU and only one other UTAU in a duet? Like say if I only used Iris and Rai in duets and no one else? Or do you mean using their UTAU in multiple duets with other UTAUs? Like say if I were to have Iris and Mimi do a duet and then have Iris and Mona do a duet, and then Iris and Nana etc.
Regardless why would that not count as using another UTAU? So, if Iris and Lulu sing together I didn't really use Lulu because I used Iris too? That's just silly.
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Advertising...it's like baking a delicious cake and going through all the trouble of taste testing and decorating it. You put it on your table but...no one comes to eat it. Why? Cause you didn't tell anyone about it. So what do you do? You advertise it by giving out invites so people can come see and cut themselves a slice. Then, if you're good at baking let's hope, they'll tell their friends and those friends will come around and ask you for more. Because hey everyone else liked your cake and they want some too.
Now let's say you bake a delicious cake and taste it and all that and it's pretty delicious. So you make lots of cakes and go around putting them on peoples doorsteps every. Single. Day. People eventually tell you to knock it off because your being obnoxious. They can't go out and get their morning paper or check the mail without getting cake in their slippers! And eventually everyone gives up on you ever stopping and they decide screw it and move away(for laughs they take their houses with them). Now you're stuck with all this cake, no one wants any, and no one cares.
Basically...people need to differentiate between "self advertising" and "spamming". Because everyone here self advertises whether they realize it or not. When you post your cover up in the cover thread for others to see...you are basically advertising yourself. You are putting your work out there for others to see. When you share a link to your work...advertising. And there's nothing wrong with that. How else are people going to see it?
What I would consider "wrong" is constantly throwing the same link up over and over again every five minutes trying to get everyone to see it. Share your links. Post your cover in the thread. Make a journal about it. Basically send out your invites, let people know you baked that delicious cake. But...let them come to you. Don't go throwing it at them or forcing them to look...let them come to you. If that cake looks yummy enough trust me people will want to eat it. And they'll tell their friends...but you have to start and you have to do it tastefully(oops I think I made a pun to go along with my cake analogy).
On the topic of using your own UTAU...whether it be the only UTAU you use or not may I ask why that has such an impact on everything? So my cakes aren't good enough for you unless I've eaten other peoples cakes?
While I admit using other voices can improve your skills as an UTAU user, your own UTAU isn't going to get any improvement if you don't use them and practice with them. How will you know what to tell people who use them? How will you know what your UTAUs limits are unless you use them and practice with them and really get to know them? Even if it's your voice...you'd be surprised.
And hell let's face it sometimes you will be the only person to use your UTAU for a looong time and no one wants to see their creation sit there and gather dust while everyone elses UTAU gets attention. Not a comfy feeling.
Now who wants some cake?