TakP's official English/German CVC reclist

Spiffy Films

Spiffy Films
So I wanted you guy's opinion on my cvc english and german reclist.
Pronunciation guide:
Consonants:
b - "b" sound
d - "d" sound
D - soft "d" sound used in english slurrs. "water"
f - "f" sound
g- - "g" sound
h - "h" sound. if it's at the end it means that you have an exasperated "[]-"
k - "k" sound
L - "l" sound. capitol l is used to reduce confusion from capitol "i"
m - "m" sound
n - "n" sound
p - "p" sound
s - "s" sound
S - "share"
t - "t" sound
v - "v" sound
w - "w" sound
y - english "y" sound or German "j" sound. "Youth" or "Jahre"
r - normal english r sound
R - rolled r sound (some english but mostly german)
ch - normal "ch" sound in english. "chain"
CH - german "ch" sound. "ich"
j - english j sound. "Jump"
J - idk how to describe this. It's that sound in the word "Asia"
th- "Thorough"

NOTE:
Some consonants are combined. also, there are samples that will contain a consonant with no vowel sound.
Combined sounds will look like this.
ska - "skare"
fyu - "of you" (example of note blending)
s - this is good when you have a work like "masks." while allows you use "Ask" for the last two syllables, and then "s" for the last s sound

Vowels:
A - That
a - All
e - Bet
E - Beep
ii - This
RR - "were"
rR - same as above, but rolled
@ - bug
u - boop
O - Thor
U - "would"
OE - Boy
eE - bay
AE - Thigh
aE - Same as above, but more rounded.
uE - Bui (rarely used but yeah)(you can get this by having and then [wE], but this recording is for those who want it all)
Au - "ouch"
Eu - "ew"
@u - "oat"
Ou - same as above but rounded
The following are optional, and are for blending..
ARR - combo of "A" and "RR". not sure what word contains this
aRR - "are"
eRR - "air"
ERR - "ear"
ORR - "or"
URR - idk when this would be used...
ArR - same as ARR but rolled
arR - same as aRR but rolled
erR - same as eRR but rolled
ErR - same as ERR but rolled
OrR - same as ORR but rolled
UrR - same as URR but rolled

RECLIST IS IN THE FOLLOWING SPOILER

By-them-self Consonants. (C and CC)
b
d
D
f
g
h
j
J
k
L
m
n
p
s
S
t
th
v
w
y
ch
CH
CHt (for german words like “nacht”)
st
sk
sp
ts
St
Sk
Sp

Now the by-them-self vowels (V)
A
a
e
E
ii
RR
rR
@
u
U
O
LL
the following are vowels that should not be held out and are for blending or word endings. (VV)
OE
eE
AE
aE
uE
Au
Eu
@u
Ou
ARR
aRR
eRR
eRR
ERR
ORR
URR
ArR
arR
erR
ErR
OrR
UrR
And now the CVC recordings.. and some CCVCC
bAb
bab
beb
bEb
biib
bRRb
brRb
b@b
bub
bUb
bOb
bLLb
dAd
dad
red
dEd
diid
dRRd
drRd
d@d
dud
dUd
dOd
dLLd
DAD
DaD
DeD
DED
DiiD
DRRD
DrRD
D@D
DuD
DUD
DOD
dLLd
fAf
faf
fef
fEf
fiif
fRRf
frRf
f@f
fuf
fUf
fOf
fLLf
gAg
gag
geg
gEg
giig
gRRg
grRg
g@g
gug
gUg
gOg
gLLg
hAh
hah
heh
hEh
hiih
hRRh
hrRh
h@h
huh
hUh
hOh
hLLh
jAj
jaj
jej
jEj
jiij
jRRj
jrRj
j@j
juj
jUj
jOj
jLLj
JAJ
JaJ
JeJ
JEJ
JiiJ
JRRJ
JrRJ
J@J
JuJ
JUJ
JOJ
JLLJ
kAk
kak
kek
kEk
kiik
kRRk
krRk
k@k
kuk
kUk
kOk
kLLk
LAL
LaL
LeL
LEL
LiiL
LRRL
LrRL
L@L
LuL
LUL
LOL (hahaha… lol)
LLLL (it’s possible. you’ll see when I release the bank)
mAm
mam
mem
mEm
miim
mRRm
mrRm
m@m
mum
mUm
mOm
mLLm
nAn
nan
nen
nEn
niin
nRRn
nrRn
n@n
nun
nUn
nOn
nLLn
pAp
pap
pep
pEp
piip
pRRp
prRp
p@p
pup
pUp
pOp
pLLp
rA
ra
re
rE
rii
rRR
rrR
r@
ru
rU
rO
rLL
sAs
sas
ses
sEs
siis
sRRs
srRs
s@s
sus
sUs
sOs
sLLs
tAt
tat
tet
tEt
tiit (be mature now people lol)
tRRt
trRt (if you’re still able to do these long rolled r’s you are amazing)
t@t
tut
tUt
tOt
tLLt
thAth
thath
theth
thEth
thiith
thRRth
thrRth
th@th
thuth
thUth
thOth
thLLth
vAv
vav
vev
vEv
viiv
vRRv
vrRv
v@v
vuv
vUv
vOv
vLLv
(w and y do not have ending consonants due to the fact of how w’s and y’s are pronounced)
wA
wa
we
wE
wii (it’s a good console… I’m getting bored so yeah… lol)
wRR
wrR
w@
wu
wU
wO
wLL
yA
ya
ye
yE (yes this is pronounceable. and it’s used in words like “jemand”)
yii
yRR
yrR
y@
yu
yU
yO
yLL
(back to CVC now!)
chAch
chach
chech
chEch
chiich
chRRch
chrRch
ch@ch
chuch
chUch
chOch
chLLch
(the “CH” phoneme is really only needed for if you plan on using this for german as well)
CHACH
CHaCH
CHeCH
CHECH
CHiiCH
CHRRCH
CHrRCH
CH@CH
CHuCH
CHUCH
CHOCH
CHLLCH
(the following are just VC, because “CHt” is for word endings…)
ACHt
aCHt (8)
eCHt
ECHt
iiCHt
RRCHt
rRCHt
@CHt
uCHt
UCHt
OCHt
LLCHt
(and finally, CCVCC. These are optional though, although recommended)
stAst
stast
stest
stEst
stiist
stRRst
strRst
st@st
stust
stUst
stOst
stLLst
skAsk
skask
skesk
skEsk
skiisk
skRRsk
skrRsk
sk@sk
skusk
skUsk
skOsk
skLLsk
spAsp
spasp
spesp
spEsp
spiisp
spRRsp
sprRsp
sp@sp
spusp
spUsp
spOsp
spLLsp
tsAts
tsats
tsets
tsEts
tsiits
tsRRts
tsrRts
ts@ts
tsuts
tsUts
tsOts
tsLLts
StASt
StaSt
SteSt
StESt
StiiSt
StRRSt
StrRSt
St@St
StuSt
StUSt
StOSt
SkASk
SkaSk
SkeSk
SkESk
SkiiSk
SkRRSk
SkrRSk
Sk@Sk
SkuSk
SkUSk
SkOSk
SkLLSk
SpASp
SpaSp
SpeSp
SpESp
SpiiSp
SpRRSp
SprRSp
Sp@Sp
SpuSp
SpUSp
SpOSp
SpLLSp
Thought you were done? well… there are the CCV and CCCV…
if you want to you can record that again but this time
instead of, for example, of saying “bAb” you would say “brA”
but you can get around not recording these by having a very
short “bu” and then “rA”…
The same for “byA” except you would have a short “bE” and then
a “yA”… I personally wouldn’t, but you can if you want to. I’m not gonna
type it since it’s pretty pointless to do so.

But that’s still not all. Finally you have those blending vowels. This one isn’t as long though..
But you do have to record each one twice. like for example “bOE” “OEb”
but those are blending. so those again are optional and won’t be typed cause they are
obvious.
At least do the ones ending with “RR”. I’ll list them again, but you can pair the
consonants yourself.
ARR
aRR
eRR
eRR
ERR
ORR
URR
ArR
arR
erR
ErR
OrR
UrR
these can be done with 2 separate notes, but it would make your world a bit easier when making UST’s
 

Zarsla

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Uhm...you forgot the other "th" sound it's the one you have in though, thy and the end.
 
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na4a4a

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Tbh, showing the recording list on its own is kind of pointless without a example of its usage.
It looks a lot like many others released before it and even appears more convoluted then those before it.

you probably have a lot of reversions ahead of you to clean it up a bit.
 

Spiffy Films

Spiffy Films
Thread starter
Tbh, showing the recording list on its own is kind of pointless without a example of its usage.
It looks a lot like many others released before it and even appears more convoluted then those before it.

you probably have a lot of reversions ahead of you to clean it up a bit.
Well that's because I was trying to get as many sounds in as possible.
Also adding in german sounds...

And I don't have a bank with it yet cause I this weekend I plan on making it...

I added more to it though.. The basic idea here is to create a simple english UTAU that although it's as good as VCCV or CVVC, can still produce understandable results.
 

na4a4a

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Understandable is entirely suggested.
What is understandable to one isn't to another.

it'd probably be best to simplify the english more to make more room for the german. if that makes any sense
 

Kiyoteru

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I noticed that you use capital letters here and there, and it seems like arbitrary randomness...

Consider using X-sampa directly? And since your aim is at bilinguality (with potential other languages, due to phonetics) it's better to use a more international phonetic system. Perhaps you should also have a small reclist-specific table of your notation to IPA.
 

Spiffy Films

Spiffy Films
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Well this is my first reclist.. and also I'm not really aiming for looking pretty I'm more looking for sounding good
Sorry if that sounds rude/sassy but honestly as long as the person making the UTAU can understand it then it's
all good...

Plus with CVC there's not really a way to simplify it and changing it from a list to a table just makes it look simple.. You still have
to do the same recordings...

If you want me to change the symbols then you will have to do it yourself cause I already spent a lot of time typing that out...
If you wanna change the symbols and make a table, go right ahead... I made the symbols to what made me think of what.
"what makes me think of a strong "a" sound.... oh! "A"!!

also all the german variants of phonetics are the small letter followed by the capital... so I do have a consistant pattern...
rR....aA.... so on...[DOUBLEPOST=1423799087][/DOUBLEPOST]Ok so I need to change the reclist a bit due to some stuff I forgot to put in...

How do I edit the OP???
 

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