Voicebank Organization: Reducing the Clutter?

[Panano]

Okay, so this topic probably exists already, because, surely I cannot be the only one with this problem...thing is, I cannot find it. I also don't know if this is in the right directory, but I'm going to assume it's here. My apologies if it is not.

Okay, so I've been only getting CV voicebanks, but I've come to realize some USTs are only for VCV voicebanks. The plugin that changes VCV to CV or vice versa apparently often 'distorts' the sound or something. I'm not exactly sure, but I've heard the conversion often messes something up....possibly the melody/notes?

Anyway, if I were to get CV and VCV voicebanks of the same UTAUs, it's going to get cluttered. This is where my question really comes into play. What happens when there are simply TOO many UTAUs? I've already organized them by sex (with folders), but, since there are so many females, it's still quite cluttered.

Is there a better way to organize UTAUs? If it gets really cluttered, I'm going to have difficulty finding the voicebank EVEN if I search it up (as I'm on a romaji computer, so most of the names won't be recognized). So, what do you guys do to avoid this problem? I really want to have VCV and CV copies of a lot of voicebanks.

Alternately, I could just clear the 'voice' file and keep the other voicebanks somewhere else; dragging the voicebank I wanted to use into that file. Then again, this would get a bit dicey if I was trying out a new UST on several voicebanks and didn't know which one sounded the best on that particular song. This would be chaotic and would waste a lot of time.

If there is INDEED a topic on this, I've clearly missed it.

 

[수연 <Suyeon>]

first off, if your machine can't read hiragana, you won't be able to use VCV banks in any case as standard encoding and aliasing uses hiragana (it's rare that a vcv bank is encoded in romaji and no one uses romaji vcv). conversion doesn't cause distortion. it might mess up timing and envelopes, but i've never heard of conversion causing distortion.
as for organization, for banks that are standalone vcv and their cv counterparts, you can combine the voices into 1 folder. some banks are made to be set up in such a way (kasane teto, for ex), while others may not be (i wouldn't do this with a set of banks that has multipitch and don't use the same pitch scheme [could cause prefix map conflicts, idk]).

 

[Panano]

I have a voicebank converter, so I can switch voicebanks from Romaji to Hiragana or vice versa, destroying that problem. Also, when I said distortions, I meant to the UST, not the actual voicebank. So, yes, envelopes and timing is what I meant (like I said, I've never really experimented with conversion a lot myself, so I didn't know~).

What about registering all the different banks? Even if I DO combine the VCV and the CV bank (of an UTAU) into the same file, won't there still be a lot of clutter? Also, I'd have to register the banks separately, right? Wouldn't they still appear as separate UTAUs on this menu? That's where most of my clutter appears.

 

[Zoku]

To fix the envelope and timing issues, select all, right click, Region properties, then clear the Preutterance, Overlap, and STP boxes. If they are gray, it's not cleared. Simply put a space in the boxes if they're gray.

Separate CV and VCV banks of the same character, unless other wise stated. In multipitch banks, individual pitches shouldn't be registered. If the bank is designed to work with several appends in one bank, don't register each append separately.

There's no way to easily organize voicebanks in the selection window. You might need to just deal with it.

 

[★StarsNeverStop★]

(I hope this video processes soon cause idk why it's taking forever)

I made that, I hope it helped a little bit. I know it's not 100% what you were meaning but it might help a bit

 

[Panano]

@StarsNeverStop Thank you so much! That definitely helps, as having to click on each one to see the English name is, well, super annoying. You even made a video; I feel so special

@Zoku Good to know! That certainly sounds easy enough to fix. I thought it was going to be something super difficult, to be honest. It's a bit dissapointing that there is no easy way, but that certainly helped one of my problems.

 

[★StarsNeverStop★]

@StarsNeverStop Thank you so much! That definitely helps, as having to click on each one to see the English name is, well, super annoying. You even made a video; I feel so special

I usually make video tutorials to help explain how to do things since I have trouble just explaining in words XD I need to actually show people what i mean lol

 

[Panano]

One last thing though: a lot of my voicebanks don't appear to have the 'character'/ 'read me' file. Some of them have the 'read me' file, but it's broken and appears like this:

Is there a way around this? Do I just make a character file?

 

[★StarsNeverStop★]

One last thing though: a lot of my voicebanks don't appear to have the 'character'/ 'read me' file. Some of them have the 'read me' file, but it's broken and appears like this:
View attachment 2066

Here is a solution
Download this: http://utaforum.net/resources/ultimate-starter-kit-for-newbies.207/
And drop the readme and character text files in there and edit the files to have the basic information you know
The little thing you saw appears after the UTAU is opened in UTAU.exe

 

[Zoku]

One last thing though: a lot of my voicebanks don't appear to have the 'character'/ 'read me' file. Some of them have the 'read me' file, but it's broken and appears like this:
View attachment 2066
Is there a way around this? Do I just make a character file?

That is not a 'broken' readme file. That's just a file used by UTAU for other reasons.

 

[Panano]

That is not a 'broken' readme file. That's just a file used by UTAU for other reasons.

I know, I figured it out. I'm new to this, so cut me some slack.

 

[수연 <Suyeon>]

Glad to know you got help for your questions/problems. Sorry I couldn't help further, but I was at work (no cellphone policy - only during our two 10 minute breaks and 30 minute lunch). Don't worry, with time you'll get the hang of things in and around UTAU.

 

[Kiyoteru]

The plugin that changes VCV to CV or vice versa apparently often 'distorts' the sound or something. I'm not exactly sure, but I've heard the conversion often messes something up....possibly the melody/notes?

Sorry to come in on this thread so late, but you posted in the middle of the night.
There is no need for a VCV to CV converter plugin, as you can simply use Tools > Built in tools > Suffix Broker to remove the romaji prefixes and leave the kana lyrics intact.

 

[RaccoonButler]

:0 Why don't you change the UTAU folder's name to the romaji version immediately after downloading it so you can search it

 

[★StarsNeverStop★]

:0 Why don't you change the UTAU folder's name to the romaji version immediately after downloading it so you can search it

that doesn't work all the time. Most UTAU have the name coded in the txt titled Character, since not everyone wants their UTAU to be name "utau 57 VCCV english version 2" or something

 

[RaccoonButler]

that doesn't work all the time. Most UTAU have the name coded in the txt titled Character, since not everyone wants their UTAU to be name "utau 57 VCCV english version 2" or something

Ah, ok