I want to make a German UTAU, but apparently all the German reclists are hiding. Can someone please help? I don't care if it's CV, VCV or CV VC, I just need a German reclist.
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Anyone have any German reclist(s)?
- Thread starter DerpingToaster
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I think the reclist with which Emily's German was recorded is good usable, though I didn't look that close at it.
I'm working on a German CVC reclist myself and still need to record and test it. I could show it to you, but since the other reclist already proved to be working you maybe want to start with that one?
I'm working on a German CVC reclist myself and still need to record and test it. I could show it to you, but since the other reclist already proved to be working you maybe want to start with that one?
Okay! I actually recorded the voicebank this weekend and improvised Alle meine Entchen though I have no idea how to oto VC properly.
https://soundcloud.com/sylveranty/alle-meine-entchen-onyx
I must have made a fault in 'meine', the i transition is not nice, but that can be fixed once I figured which of the recordings is wrong.
Have you taken a look at Lea's German reclist already? The one with which Emilie was recorded? If yes, I could explain to you how mine is different, if you're interested.
https://soundcloud.com/sylveranty/alle-meine-entchen-onyx
I must have made a fault in 'meine', the i transition is not nice, but that can be fixed once I figured which of the recordings is wrong.
Have you taken a look at Lea's German reclist already? The one with which Emilie was recorded? If yes, I could explain to you how mine is different, if you're interested.
I looked at Lea's, it's very nice. Your German UTAU sounds really pretty! Can you explain how the reclists are different though?
First, her reclist is a light reclist. So I don't know if it was actually finished or if it has changed since it was released. I can only work with what I have at hand.
For one, the transcription is different in some parts. For example, she uses @, I use ae for 'ä', Mädchen, Dreck. The consonants are similar in most cases. Though she has a consonant 'R' for the sound at the end of words like 'mir', 'Mutter', I'm having that sound as a Vowel A. Counting it as a vowel in her reclist, she differentiates between 13 vowels, I have 15. She also lists diphthongs to be recorded, I don't. I have yet to see if it'll work that way and if not I can still add either diphthongs or just VV recordings. I don't have those, Lea's voicebank has them.
The CVC part should be rather similar, also the CCV part. Though I think I have some combinations she doesn't have. For example, she has pV, prV and plV, but no pfV in that section. I also have more combinations of sch (sh in hers, S in mine) + C +V. Example: SnV (for example Sne / Schnee).
The biggest difference, which makes her reclist 'short' is her CC section. She has a whole section covering CC combinations without any vowel involvement. It does seem work as shown in her Toeto cover but I wonder how it works out if there are more than just two consonants involved. I have a still growing section of VCC(CC) strings. 4 consonants in a cluster are the maximum in German, I think. An example would be 'selbst' which has 4 consonants after the e. So, I have a pack of 'albst_ilbst...' etc. Basically, I'm pilling up tons of VCC combinations to be able to create a better blend and for a more natural sound of the consonant combinations. And I'm always noticing something that I don't have yet or am unsure about if I already have it.
I think that should be the greatest differences. The transcription is just a minor thing, then the number of vowels, CVV combinations and the biggest difference are her CC's and my VCC's.
For one, the transcription is different in some parts. For example, she uses @, I use ae for 'ä', Mädchen, Dreck. The consonants are similar in most cases. Though she has a consonant 'R' for the sound at the end of words like 'mir', 'Mutter', I'm having that sound as a Vowel A. Counting it as a vowel in her reclist, she differentiates between 13 vowels, I have 15. She also lists diphthongs to be recorded, I don't. I have yet to see if it'll work that way and if not I can still add either diphthongs or just VV recordings. I don't have those, Lea's voicebank has them.
The CVC part should be rather similar, also the CCV part. Though I think I have some combinations she doesn't have. For example, she has pV, prV and plV, but no pfV in that section. I also have more combinations of sch (sh in hers, S in mine) + C +V. Example: SnV (for example Sne / Schnee).
The biggest difference, which makes her reclist 'short' is her CC section. She has a whole section covering CC combinations without any vowel involvement. It does seem work as shown in her Toeto cover but I wonder how it works out if there are more than just two consonants involved. I have a still growing section of VCC(CC) strings. 4 consonants in a cluster are the maximum in German, I think. An example would be 'selbst' which has 4 consonants after the e. So, I have a pack of 'albst_ilbst...' etc. Basically, I'm pilling up tons of VCC combinations to be able to create a better blend and for a more natural sound of the consonant combinations. And I'm always noticing something that I don't have yet or am unsure about if I already have it.
I think that should be the greatest differences. The transcription is just a minor thing, then the number of vowels, CVV combinations and the biggest difference are her CC's and my VCC's.
Oh, Ok. I understand now, thanks. Is your reclist still incomplete? Sorry for bothering you about it! 
Once it's done, could you PM the list to me or a link to the DL? Thanks.
Once it's done, could you PM the list to me or a link to the DL? Thanks.
It's incomplete in a way that it will most likely expand other time. I want to try the voicebank on a complete song soon to see if it works well. If I'm content with it's current form I could send it to you to try it out, too. I think feedback would be very important.
Hi! I believe this is the completed version of the reclist you all were looking at. http://www.4shared.com/office/wtpVd82i/German_reclist_by_Berin_2-0.html
Hope tis helps!!
Hope tis helps!!
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