The future of UTAU-Synth: compatibility in future Mac OS

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  1. 幸兔雪 (Yukito Yuki)

    幸兔雪 (Yukito Yuki) Defoko's Slaves Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    The current Mac OS, Mac OS High Sierra (10.13), is the last OS that runs 32-bit apps without compromise.

    The new upcoming Mac OS is called Mac OS Mojave. We don't know yet but this OS might not support or run properly any 32-bit apps.

    So, you may ask: "How this affects in UTAU-Synth"?

    Well, you see, UTAU-Synth is 32-bit app (and so is OREMO's native Mac version too).

    Because UTAU-Synth hasn't reserved any updates after 2013, it's unlikely that the developer of UTAU-Synth will come back and update the app from 32-bit to 64-bit.

    When more information about Mac OS Mojave is available, I'll do research if UTAU-Synth work in that OS or is better to stay in High Sierra to keep UTAU-Synth running smoothly.

    Thank you for reading.

    Courses:
    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208436
    https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2018/06/apple-introduces-macos-mojave/
     
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  3. Jamie_is

    Jamie_is Momo's Minion

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    There a project on the forum called UTSU that's in development that's compatible with Mac, if Apple does make it so that we cant use 32 bit software i guess we can either downgrade, switch to windows/linux computer or switch UTSU i guess
     
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  4. 幸兔雪 (Yukito Yuki)

    幸兔雪 (Yukito Yuki) Defoko's Slaves Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    Today was an Apple event and good news guys: Mac OS 10.14 Mojave will still run 32-bit apps meaning that you can update your OS system without fear that UTAU-Synth stops working.

    Tho what I read, Mojave will be the last OS able to run 32-bit apps, so unless UTAU-Synth gets an update from 32-bit to 64-bit (very unlikely), this will be the latest OS where it works.

    In future, after Mojave, our options are using an emulator to run Synth or looking forward to active UTAU clones project such as UTSU project.

    Thanks for reading
     
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    We need Mac-native resamplers and wavtools in order to run UTSU completely issue-free.
    Another option is to use PlayOnMac. A word of caution, though: UTAU suffers from some annoying glitches and tempo discrepancies under Wine. The tempo issues can be solved either by using v0.2.77 and up which implements a legacy wavtool mode or by using presamp.
     
  6. Jaycob 49

    Jaycob 49 Momo's Minion

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    UTAU-Synth performs a bit glitchy on mojove
     
  7. Phanto

    Phanto i have ideas and soon you'll see them Defender of Defoko

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    oh right! i never thought about it being the update shdjfz
    has it been like really laggy for you? and like flashing whenever you try move around?
     
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    Jaycob 49 Momo's Minion

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    yep! AND ITS SO ANNOYING I MADE A VM JUST TO USE UTAU PC
     
  9. Pikachuk(SeleDreamsP)

    Pikachuk(SeleDreamsP) Teto is love, Teto is life (Rin too) Defender of Defoko

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    Resampler wise, I've edited the source code of world4utau in order to allow it to build on any OS using only cross platform code
    so I already could compile world4utau for mac, wavtool wise, I'll have to look at it to see if there's any wavtool source code I could edit to make it cross platform
     
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  10. 幸兔雪 (Yukito Yuki)

    幸兔雪 (Yukito Yuki) Defoko's Slaves Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    https://utaforum.net/threads/rip-utausynth.18956/

    Some people has reported that UTAU-Synth runs slowly on Mojave.

    Also, because Mojave is still fairy new and quite different to High Sierra, I would be cautious if you have any other important apps than UTAU (e.g. Vocaloid 5 editor, they’re working on Mojave upgrade ver).

    Please, check app’s OS compability before upgrading!
     
  11. MastermindRitsu

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    This is actually my first time ever responding to a board on here so forgive my ignorance, but I'm actually working with Haircylps, the beautiful man who made the Dante patch, and his newest patch that I'm beta testing is running Synth on Mojave pretty well.
     

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