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Update A very important warning about Soundcloud

SaKe

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for-producers-consider-removing-your-music-from-soundcloud-v0-gu6jyuh5of0f1.png

YEAH
I'M NOT KIDDING, THEY SAID THAT
NOTHING ELSE TO SAY


This is a betrayal of every musician's rights to their own music and a horrendous business practice. Soundcloud is rapidly becoming the new DeviantArt.

(This may not be the correct forum to post in, but since this is incredibly concerning I thought I should post it here)
 

Row 4

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damn. Time to shift to something else I guess… any suggestions? (Not YouTube)
 

WinterSing

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Holy crap... A HORRIBLE PRACTICE TO DELETE SONGS!? I don't want to delete them, I want to KEEP them safe.
 
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SaKe

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damn. Time to shift to something else I guess… any suggestions? (Not YouTube)
Closest thing I can think is Bandcamp, but to avoid copyright stuff you’d have to make your own instrumentals.
 

turboking

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I saw this update the other day and Im actually so confused. Why does SoundCloud think artists want this? I'm glad I haven't been using SoundCloud, but there really has to be a better alternative somewhere.
 
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heynotloid

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for-producers-consider-removing-your-music-from-soundcloud-v0-gu6jyuh5of0f1.png

YEAH
I'M NOT KIDDING, THEY SAID THAT
NOTHING ELSE TO SAY


This is a betrayal of every musician's rights to their own music and a horrendous business practice. Soundcloud is rapidly becoming the new DeviantArt.

(This may not be the correct forum to post in, but since this is incredibly concerning I thought I should post it here)
It's a good thing I deleted all my music.
 
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SaKe

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I saw this update the other day and Im actually so confused. Why does SoundCloud think artists want this? I'm glad I haven't been using SoundCloud, but there really has to be a better alternative somewhere.
Because they’re probably planning to implement their on AI music generator to compete with Suno. It’s all about money.
 
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Natsucchi

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uhh SHIT. i need to download my tracks and make pvs for them to upload to niconico or something
i'm terrified now/hj
 
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FelineWasteland

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According to a statement they put out a few days ago, they're not currently using user uploads to train data, but their license permits it in the case they do in the future -- so don't panic about your uploads already being in a database, but remove them if you don't want them to be in the future.

As far as Bandcamp as an alternative, be careful uploading covers even with your own instrumentals because you also need to have the rights to the song's score because the score and the specific audio of each performance are separate copyrights. I don't know of any other good pure audio platforms, so your best bet currently might just be Youtube unless you want audio-only for some purpose.

Also seconding Sake's post above; it's not about user's wants at all, it's always about money. Never trust a platform or brand to have your best interests in mind; they'll sell as much of you as they can get away with.
 
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FelineWasteland

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Update: official statement from the CEO clarifies they don't intend to use user content to train generative AI models -- to explicitly replicate users' voices or music styles, anyways. It does not expressly state they will never use it at all, so I'd still exercise caution with what you put on the site if you continue to use it. The website's TOU has been updated as well to clarify this.

Source: https://musically.com/2025/05/14/soundcloud-changes-terms-of-use-to-reflect-its-ai-policies/
 

Natsucchi

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Update: official statement from the CEO clarifies they don't intend to use user content to train generative AI models -- to explicitly replicate users' voices or music styles, anyways. It does not expressly state they will never use it at all, so I'd still exercise caution with what you put on the site if you continue to use it. The website's TOU has been updated as well to clarify this.

Source: https://musically.com/2025/05/14/soundcloud-changes-terms-of-use-to-reflect-its-ai-policies/
okay, good. I will keep using Soundcloud until the AI is implemented (i'm still a little nervous)
 

SaKe

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AI is terrible.
AI is terrible... WHEN it's being trained off datasets the creator has no right to and when it is used to cause harm to other people. Unfortunately, this is how it is almost always used.

It's just a mechanism, in the end, and can't really be good or evil- that's up to the people who use it.
 
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Mr. Cloud

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AI is terrible... WHEN it's being trained off datasets the creator has no right to and when it is used to cause harm to other people. Unfortunately, this is how it is almost always used.

It's just a mechanism, in the end, and can't really be good or evil- that's up to the people who use it.
True.
 

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