English reclist for non-native?

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  1. mahalisyarifuddin

    mahalisyarifuddin Momo's Minion

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    Uhm.. Which English reclist you guys would recommend for a person who is not an English native speaker and is still learning about the language? .w.)a
     
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  3. Kiyoteru

    Kiyoteru Local Sensei Supporter Defender of Defoko

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  4. MiyiibotTsugaa

    MiyiibotTsugaa Teto's Territory Defender of Defoko

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    delta. kasane teto uses that, and its pretty smooth
     
  5. Kiyoteru

    Kiyoteru Local Sensei Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    It's certainly true that the Delta reclist is aimed at non-English speakers, but more specifically, it's intended for Japanese UTAU users. All of the tutorials (recording, otoing, ust making) for Delta are entirely written in Japanese.
     
  6. Pokefan2012

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    Have you had a look at arpasing? http://arpasing.tubs.moe/en/index.html

    Whilst it's a very new recording method, there are lots of resources and different reclists to help you out, and I think it might work best for you since some of reclists consist of actual words, so you can just pronounce them the way you would, instead of trying to force out particular sounds, as you might with VCCV or CVVC lists. This does mean your UTAU will likely have a noticeable non-native accent, but I don't think that will cause any issues; I personally know a fair few English speakers from all over the world with a variety of different accents!

    Of course, I don't know how easy it will be for you to pronounce the words in the reclist (I know when I was learning French a few years ago, there were some words I just couldn't) so you may find you want to use a list which is just a string of sounds. You could look at VCCV, which is the other standard for English atm, but it's fairly difficult due to the sheer size of the voicebank alone, but Kohaku Merry has a VCCV English voicebank, so I wouldn't rule it out if you struggle with arpasing.

    Sorry this has been pretty long, but I hope it's at least a bit helpful; UTAU English is pretty difficult in general, so please don't hesitate to ask if you need any further help, because, if not me, somebody will know what to do :smile:
     
  7. mahalisyarifuddin

    mahalisyarifuddin Momo's Minion

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    Thank you so much for the response! I'll definitely check them out.

    But yeah, I almost forgot to put my recent attempts to sing in English here:
    Are these pronunciations okay/acceptable? Is it okay to me to record using word-based list like Arpasing, or I should work more about the pronunciation and "force" it using string-based list like VCCV? Because I'm worried when I talk/sing in English, people would not understand me. :bigtears:
     
  8. Pokefan2012

    Pokefan2012 Ruko's Ruffians Defender of Defoko

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    I think you should be absolutely fine using an Arpasing list, of course, it's always worth it to test your voicebank so that you can redo any strange recordings, but I don't think you'll face any kind of dire issues :smile: Plus you can always upload particular strings or tests in the engine for feedback if you feel unsure about them :smile:
     

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