Mysterious Crypton Updates

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  1. Info-Chan

    Info-Chan SELENA Developer Tutor Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    http://www.vocaloidotaku.net/index.php?/topic/71754-update-to-the-crypton-vocaloids-coming-next-year

    Translations: uncreepy

    Well then
     
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  3. MillyAqualine

    MillyAqualine Ritsu's Renegades Defender of Defoko

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    Could it be ? ~
     
  4. Info-Chan

    Info-Chan SELENA Developer Tutor Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    Possibly
     
  5. FiftiesYoungin

    FiftiesYoungin Procrastination Who? Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    what are you referring to? :O
     
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    Kei-T Teto's Territory

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    No news on CV04? 3.9/10, would not recommend. /joke

    But seriously, this seems pretty cool. The "visual kei singing motif" thing in particular has definitely piqued my interest. I'm excited to see what comes out of this!
     
  7. uncreepy

    uncreepy Momo's Minion

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    Hi, I'm uncreepy migrating from Vocaloid Otaku. Lots of big news, several new tweets.

    Tweet 1:
    https://twitter.com/vocaloid_cv_cfm/status/978819300277407745
    音声合成音を、人間の声の成分でコーティングする方法…もう少しで安定しそう…。
    A method to coat the vocal synthesis sound with human voice components... just a little while longer and it seems it will be stable....
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    Tweet 2:
    https://twitter.com/vocaloid_cv_cfm/status/978836415025852418
    人間の声の成分が補助的に必要…というよりは、VOCALOIDの時間解像度が足りずに「なにぬねの」などの発音が潰れたり、急激なピッチの変化によるノイズ部分を別成分で補完するためにやってます >声のコーティング
    A human voice component is a necessary supplement... rather, VOCALOID's temporal resolution* being insufficeient, damaging Japanese pronunciations such as "na ni nu ne no"; we are working to supplement sudden pitch changes on parts with noise with a separate component--> voice coating.
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    Temporal resolution: "Temporal resolution (related to time) tells you how quickly you can measure things. A standard video camera records at 30 frames per second - or an interval of 0.033 seconds. High-speed video cameras can reach 10,000 frames per second or higher - making it have a temporal resolution of 0.0001 seconds. " - science_man_29
    https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/l1xs9/eli5_spatial_vs_temporal_resolution/

    https://twitter.com/vocaloid_cv_cfm/status/978842989463310336
    Notable reply:
    Q: 聴き取りやすくなる、ということでしょうか。
    Q: I wonder if it's about becoming easier to listen to?
    A: 「ぎこちなさが減る&通常表現できない低音のボソボソしたフレーズでも何とか聴けるようになる」…という感じですかね。
    A: "Becoming able to hear decreased awkwardness & murmured low phrases that normally can't be expressed"...that kind of thing.
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    Tweet 3:
    https://twitter.com/vocaloid_cv_cfm/status/978933081343107072
    ちなみに声を高品位にするのが目的という訳ではなく…発音の聞き取りやすさを担保しながら、母音部分を中心に、…例えば初期のUTAU単独音っぽくしたり、極端なショートループ感でチップチューン感を出せないかなども考えていて、将来的にはV2よりもっとチープな歌声も表現できればなと思っています。
    By the way, the objective is not to make a high-definition voice... While guaranteeing easy to hear pronunciation, focusing on the vowel part, ... For example, we're thinking about things like making independant sounds like early UTAU, whether or not to potentially produce a sense of extremely short loops or a chiptune* sense; we're thinking that in the near future, compared to V2, to express with a more cheap singing voice if possible.
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    Chiptune, aka 8-bit music: synthesized music for old computers and games
     
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  8. uncreepy

    uncreepy Momo's Minion

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    Another day, more news. I hope it's okay to reply under my own post.

    Wat's new tweet:
    https://twitter.com/vocaloid_cv_cfm/status/979220618309648384
    超歌舞伎、あはれ名作くんと、シンカリオンとの違いについて質問頂来ましたので、回答を。今までも藤田さんらの演技を使用させて頂いてますが、ミクっぽさを全面に出してました。一方今回は、初音ミク自体が演技をしているような見せ方で、声質もdarkやsolidのニュアンスが入っていて、よく荒ぶります
    I recieved a question about the difference between Chou Kabuki, Aware! Meisaku-kun, and Shinkalion, so here is my answer. Up until now, we used Fujita-san and co.'s performances, but Miku-ness still came out on the whole surface. Whereas this time, with a presentation technique as if Hatsune Miku herself is performing, even the voice quality has dark or solid's nuance put in, and is very fierce.

    The question he's referring to:
    https://twitter.com/ejiwarp/status/978951531323047936
    Q:
    超歌舞伎とシンガリオンの演出の同系統の技術と理解していいですか。
    Do you mind explaining the technology related to the production of Chou Kabuki and Shinkalion's?
    A:
    次のツイートでお答えしますねー。
    I will answer in the next tweet~.

    Notable reply to his newest tweet #1:
    https://twitter.com/AHUKIM/status/979234640417325058
    Q:
    荒ぶるミクさん!どんなんやろー .゚+.(´∀`*).+゚.
    Fierce Miku-san! I wonder what it's like~ .゚+.(´∀`*).+゚.
    A:
    結構、不思議な感じですよ。必殺技のシーンとか。紛れもなくミクの声質なのですが...ちょっとだけ?ってなります。藤田さんの生声とも、まるっきり違います。違い過ぎて笑えるレベルなんですけどねー
    It gives a wonderful, mysterious feeling.Something like the scene of a Finishing Move. Unmistakeably Miku's type of voice, but... "just a little bit?" Completely different from Fujita-san's raw voice. It's a level that's so different it'll make you laugh, but~ hey.

    Notable reply to his newest tweet #2:
    https://twitter.com/nokky246/status/979231163880415233
    Q:
    darkやsolidのニュアンスですか!これはますます期待です(^ω^)
    Dark and solid's nuance?! I'm more and more excited. (^ω^)
    A:
    ありがとうございます。発売当時忙しくてあまり反響を見切れていなかったのですが、darkやsolidがミクらしくないとか、可愛くないとか、高圧的な声…って感じで苦手な方もいらっしゃったりするんでしょうかね?世間一般のミクのイメージとdarkの声がどのくらい違うのかは良くも悪くもドキドキです!
    Thank you. At the time it went for sale, I was busy and didn't really see the reactions, but I suppose there are people who feel dark and solid isn't like Miku, isn't cute, has an overbearing voice...? To what extent Miku's generally accepted image and her dark voice are different is is for better or worse heart-pounding!
     
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  9. Info-Chan

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    It's completely fine as long as it's important! This is very interesting : o
     
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