We need to start talking about the future of UTAU's engine development before it's too late

[na4a4a]

I really don't care for the SiVo interface, actually. It just looks like the same old Utau editor with a fourth of your screen wasted to character art.

I was thinking the same thing but didn't know if I couldn't safely say it.

 

[Tomato Hentai]

I highly recommend taking a peek at https://notabug.org/isengaara/qtau , as this fork is under active development.

"prepare for release - 1 week ago"
OWO

 

[na4a4a]

oh no it uses Jack for audio.

Jack is basically the Linux audio equivalent of slitting your wrists. I'm gonna cry.

 

[partial]

Does anyone know what Qtau looks like?

 

[chunter]

JACK isn't that bad once you're used to it, but the sentiment is understood. You don't really need it to do what we do.

This is all very positive news, to me; as not only will we be able to run the code in a virtual environment by then, I'm sure some of us will keep legacy computers just to run it, and there will be an alternative or 3.

 

[KNΞMΛTCS]

Does anyone know what Qtau looks like?

Google knows if you look it up. I had it loading up awhile ago (took a lot of screwing with packages) but got nothing out of it. This could be because of aforementioned Jack audio, but what I noticed was there was no voice selection in the related drop-down box. I want to give it another shot next time I remember my laptop.

 

[CarrotJuice]

eyo just an idea but you don't necessarily need access to source code to use the Desktop app converter by microsoft to convert the .exe from utau to an APPX(?) for UWP deployment in the windows store, it'll mean it still has the same code base but im sure itll last longer in the UWP "container" so to speak.

idk just an idea don't roast me

 

[Arissa]

Does anyone know what Qtau looks like?

Lol, did you try googling it by images?

 

[VocAddict]

-snip-

I'm not sure if this will work but I'll give it a try when I get all these prerequisites to download. though it will be nice if someone gets it to work before me lol

 

[CarrotJuice]

I'm not sure if this will work but I'll give it a try when I get all these prerequisites to download. though it will be nice if someone gets it to work before me lol

You mean UWP conversion??, if you can do it thats great! i dont have time to work on something like that atm because of work and life but if you are havin trouble im gonna get round to converting it eventually and i have experience converting win32 apps to UWP anyway but
itll just take a while

http://www.windowscentral.com/how-c...niversal-windows-platform-apps-desktop-bridge

^ highly recommend this btw

 

[VocAddict]

So, after some trial and error, I was able to convert UTAU into a UWP application. Though I wasn't able to convert the installer as yet (the BaseImage is still downloading), I managed to convert a fresh install of UTAU to a UWP app.

Some things to note:

Spoiler

1. The converter said that it made the .APPX for a x86 processor architecture. I haven't tested it on a 32-bit system yet but it should run.
2. I had to manually make a certificate/signature in order to install it (Windows would not allow you to install a non-trusted or signed application), so if I you decide to install it, you'll need to add the certificate to a trusted store.
3. This .APPX can only run on 10.0.14393.0 (Anniversary Update) and higher (Creator's Update). This is because the SDK I have downloaded is for my current of version of Windows and until I install Visual Basic or figure out a way to reduce the minimum OS requirement, this can only work on Windows 10 Anniversary Update and above. Trying to install it on a lower OS (which includes Windows 8 and 8.1) will give you an error about not meeting the prerequisite requirements.
4. I don't have a fresh PC to install this so I'm not sure if this can be run without changing the locale to Japanese (though I'm assuming it will still be required).
5. I am also assuming that the all prerequisites must be installed in order for the program to actually run.

Currently, the application is running in sandbox mode so it isn't saving any data directly to the folder it's installed in (the program basically does a completely fresh run whenever it is opened as if it's opening for the first time). Any voicebanks, plugins, etc. needs to be installed by dragging the .ZIP or .UAR into the open window where it will save in the AppData folder (which seems to be the only way anything "saves").

UTAU works as it should. The only problem I've encountered with this version of the app is when you close it, you get this error (even when it is running in elevated mode).

Spoiler

I believe this is due to the fact of that it is running in sandbox mode and doesn't allow any direct saving to the installed file system.

When I get the BaseImage to download, I'll fiddle around with the conversion for the installer and see if it yields different results.

As for now, I honestly believe there's no point of using this but we will see.

 

[na4a4a]

What is the point of converting it to a UWP app?
You can't put it in the windows store if you aren't the developer.

Converting it does nothing to the actual application so regardless it will be exactly the same.

 

[VocAddict]

What is the point of converting it to a UWP app?
You can't put it in the windows store if you aren't the developer.

Converting it does nothing to the actual application so regardless it will be exactly the same.

I agree. There's really no point since it all it does is allow you to run UTAU as a "metro" app.

You can distribute it without the windows store though that sounds like copyright infringements right there

 

[CarrotJuice]

What is the point of converting it to a UWP app?
You can't put it in the windows store if you aren't the developer.

Converting it does nothing to the actual application so regardless it will be exactly the same.

why not? its not a practical solution but its interesting to see if its possible

 

[na4a4a]

It doesn't fix any problems so it's not really any sort of solution.

 

[HixaiU]

Lol, did you try googling it by images?

I tried looking up images because I was curious but all I got was this

Spoiler: Spoiler

 

[KNΞMΛTCS]

I tried looking up images because I was curious but all I got was this

Spoiler: Spoiler

 

[Arissa]

I tried looking up images because I was curious but all I got was this

Spoiler: Spoiler

Weird. I got the interface of the actual program

 

[HixaiU]

so its basically like a clone just minimalist? Thats the vibe I get here

 

[KNΞMΛTCS]

so its basically like a clone just minimalist? Thats the vibe I get here

Yep, a clone but with Vocaloid style tuning (which isn't implemented yet because the default engine - a HMM based one - doesn't support them).