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Options for someone with vocal damage?

4ngeldos3

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I have vocal damage from years of anorexia and bulimia as well as smoking, i dont mind my voice honestly, its got a grainy texture which sounds good when singing (think nirvana and grunge type stuff) but it doesnt translate into utau at all, ive recorded ATLEAST 15 voicebanks all for them to go wrong


heres an example so you know what i mean, i think its a vcv tripitch? I deleted it though :/

if anyone has any advice please let me know <3
 
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Kiyoteru

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I recommend the tn_fnds resampler. If it's unable to detect the pitch of a note correctly, you can set the W flag for just that note (eg. W440 to specify the original pitch of the recording as 440Hz)
 
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GeneralNuisance

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I have vocal damage from years of anorexia and bulimia as well as smoking, i dont mind my voice honestly, its got a grainy texture which sounds good when singing (think nirvana and grunge type stuff) but it doesnt translate into utau at all, ive recorded ATLEAST 15 voicebanks all for them to go wrong


heres an example so you know what i mean, i think its a vcv tripitch? I deleted it though :/

if anyone has any advice please let me know <3

I'm going to be 100% honest with you. This voicebank sounds pretty good, actually, and I don't think the issue here is your voice or any vocal damage, and seems to just be the resampler choice. I'd reccomend using Moresampler, Fresamp or Doppelter. I know Kiyoteru reccomended tn_fnds, but I wouldn't reccomend that since it basically turns into the meme of Peter Griffin glitching out and getting sick after eating a rice cake when it has to handle anything longer than an eighth note.

Also ensure that you set the modulation/mod to 0 in any USTs, helps a TON with a VB that sounds off pitch, and fixes it about 99% of the time.

The default resampler has a bit of a habit of making voicebanks sound kinda screechy and metallic, regardless of the vocal texture of the voicebank it's trying to render. Grainier voices do tend to work fairly well in UTAU so long as you're not using the default resampler. Trei, Arachne, Ken Shippai, S.A.M. Intel, and Kikyuune Aiko are all voices with a bit of husk/graininess to them and they're all regarded as being pretty good quality, and who have a tone that could be considered as being in a similar ballpark to what you've linked. If you're wondering about why they might have that depth of sound in covers while your UTAU doesn't, it likely just comes down to mixing. All UTAUs sound a little flat and dull in the program until you start the mixing process. JOEZCafe has a pretty good mixing tutorial specifically about vocal synths.
 
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4ngeldos3

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I'm going to be 100% honest with you. This voicebank sounds pretty good, actually, and I don't think the issue here is your voice or any vocal damage, and seems to just be the resampler choice. I'd reccomend using Moresampler, Fresamp or Doppelter. I know Kiyoteru reccomended tn_fnds, but I wouldn't reccomend that since it basically turns into the meme of Peter Griffin glitching out and getting sick after eating a rice cake when it has to handle anything longer than an eighth note.

Also ensure that you set the modulation/mod to 0 in any USTs, helps a TON with a VB that sounds off pitch, and fixes it about 99% of the time.

The default resampler has a bit of a habit of making voicebanks sound kinda screechy and metallic, regardless of the vocal texture of the voicebank it's trying to render. Grainier voices do tend to work fairly well in UTAU so long as you're not using the default resampler. Trei, Arachne, Ken Shippai, S.A.M. Intel, and Kikyuune Aiko are all voices with a bit of husk/graininess to them and they're all regarded as being pretty good quality, and who have a tone that could be considered as being in a similar ballpark to what you've linked. If you're wondering about why they might have that depth of sound in covers while your UTAU doesn't, it likely just comes down to mixing. All UTAUs sound a little flat and dull in the program until you start the mixing process. JOEZCafe has a pretty good mixing tutorial specifically about vocal synths.
thank you!!! i tried with moresampler and putthe mod to 0 and its sounds a lot better, i also rerecorded a pitch too


I havent used utau in about 4 years, so i guess i kinda of got a bit full of myself but ended up forgetting a lot of things? please let me know if theres anything else i could do to improve :smile:
 

GeneralNuisance

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thank you!!! i tried with moresampler and putthe mod to 0 and its sounds a lot better, i also rerecorded a pitch too


I havent used utau in about 4 years, so i guess i kinda of got a bit full of myself but ended up forgetting a lot of things? please let me know if theres anything else i could do to improve :smile:

The soundcloud link isn't working, but I'm sure it sounds great! A lot of stronger, scratchier VBs work beautifully with moresampler so it'd make sense for the VB to end up sounding better
 

4ngeldos3

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The soundcloud link isn't working, but I'm sure it sounds great! A lot of stronger, scratchier VBs work beautifully with moresampler so it'd make sense for the VB to end up sounding better
yes my bad i deleted it! but my friend mixed it into a cover~


Im happy with how she is turning out :0 I cant thank you enough
 
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