Discussion in 'UTAU Discussion' started by kimchi-tan, Aug 2, 2017.
Yes @Kiyoteru Hiyama
OKAY SO I haven't really read many of the comments on this thread so I'm sure most of my opinions have already been stated at least once or twice here, since they're fairly common actually.
1. I find the whole 15-20+ pitch UTAU thing to be extremely overdone and hardly useful in the least, for numerous reasons. (Now that I scroll back up I see that this is stated several times sorrysorrysorry)
2. Kissing up to those of a more well known status or whatever will not make you popular, just like spamming yourself all over UTAU related social media won't immediately gain you publicity.
3. CVVC can be just as smooth as VCV.
4. I feel like the overly Vocaloid-esque design a lot of people give their UTAU is overdone and also at the same time kind of lazy, creatively speaking. I feel like UTAUloids should have more creative designs that suit them for who they are, not for the vocaloid stereotype they might sometimes be associated with. (By vocaloid-esque, I mean mostly the 4644643 UTAU concepts you see on the wiki that are only a stone's throw away from being Miku/Kagamine Twins knockoffs.)
I also have to say sorry because this is unpopular too. think that the -ne xxx is tooooooooooooooo used... and sometimes also uselessly used. Like, for example... Why Kasane, Momone, Sukone, Namine, Yamine etc.? And also it can be sometimes stupid. Yamine=sound of darkness... but why, if Renri's voice is all but darkness? And why EVERYTIME Japanese names even if sometimes we have the accentish UTAU? It's not for discriminating all foreign (I'm foreign), but it's a paradox
These sound more like popular Utau opinions(I agree tho)
Also I think that it's kinda useless to create toooooooooooooooo many VBs fir a character...
I love using them because I don't like human sounding UTAU
Voice-acted voicebanks and robotic-y voicebanks are my favourites. It's nice to sound realistic, but sometimes you need that cute little reminder that UTAU is still just a program, and that reminder can be unrealistic voices.
Idk if this is unpopular utau opinion as its concerning a specific community within utau.
English UTAU seems to be on the rise and we owe thanks to pioneers like Gumbi500, Sango312, and Cz (who gave us a standard reclist with CVVC). But over the course of 7 years, I've only seen progression in the amount of voice banks available for download and not in the much needed material such as ust's. From the CVVC days, ust's were scarce, currently, I still say ust for VCCV are scarce, or more so, non diverse. I can account for only three ust makers in the VCCV community that actively produces ust, and good ones at that. Everyone overuses the same ust because thats all thats on the market
This isn't anyone's fault as with a CV or VCV Japanese banks, making a Midi file, pasting in lyrics, and tuning are simpler due to having more familiarity and experience. English however takes more work (especially in tuning because of how the samples overlap.). However, when you have more people striving for making a voicebank rather than a medium for their voicebanks to be demonstrated, I feel like it defeats the purpose.
I've recently started making ust's of my own and once I'm confident in my abilities to tune, get the right pitch, and use proper samples for pronunciation, I will go back over them and release them.
some so far examples 1 2 3 4
TL:DR: You can't increase supply without having the demand available because inflation will occur. I feel this is the state the english utau community is in regarding the voicebank to ust ratio.
A comment that really irks me: "she sounds like a cross between x and y"
I really feels like this invalidates the voice in question. Most voices may be similar, but they are still unique. This type of comment just brings back attention to previous, generally more successful voices. I much prefer comments that actually try to describe the tone or flavor of the voice instead of just comparing them to Gumi or VY1.
However, I understand it's easy to make a comparison and very hard to describe a voice in that I'd like. Perhaps if people really tried to describe a voice with a critical perspective, we wouldn't dismiss a voice just because she's a youthful female, etc.
People need to stop treating Ruko and Ritsu's identities as if they're more than just a joke. Ruko is hermaphrodite, sure, but it's not meant to be taken seriously. Same goes for all the trap UTAU, which is essentially what Ritsu is. It's not that deep, but SJWs gotta blow things out of proportion. =.=
I love unpopular opinions threads, haha!
UTAU > Vocaloid (it offers so much more freedom. If a voice doesn't sound good with a resampler, you can just change it. Also, you get good plugins, and UTAU tuning is so much easier than Vocaloid. I can draw exactly what I want right on the note.)
I love Cryptonloid-like designs as long as they're not blatant recolors and they do something unique to it; I wouldn't go for a design that's basically just Miku or the Kagamines in UTAU form. (Probably 'cause I'm a Crypton and Vippaloid junkie, haha.)
I don't care for multipitch; I don't find it to be that much more expressive than monopitch. (Except for Ritsu, maybe.)
Yamine Renri isn't as good as she's hyped up to be. (No hate, tho.)
Matsudappoiyo isn't that great. He's hard to tune and has more engine noise than even Teto and Tei.
I love rest notes. (Most of the time.)
Yokune Ruko's female voice sounds... not good????? if you put Yokune Ruko's male voice into a higher pitch it would sound better than the Female VB but no offense to anyone who likes her.
i feel that people who say that utau is "too difficult to use" have never even TRIED to use the program, because on a lot of videos about utau and vocaloid, i'm always seeing:
-It's too difficult!
-Vocaloid is sooooo much better!
- UTAU isn't even that popular anymore!
-Ha, it sound like you used waaaay too much autotune!
and i'm just sitting here wondering why most people who are new to this, are being so stupid.
-UTAU can be popular, because it has more freedoms than vocaloid.
-It's only difficult to use if you just started learning, same with vocaloid.
-yeah, it sounds like it has autotune, because it's a VOICE SYNTHESIS PROGRAM.
-stop saying vocaloid is better, because both are equal in terms of first using the programs.
and that's the end of me complaining about people who say s*** because it's funny to them, or they don't know what a voice synth is.
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