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What features do you wish Utau had?

TheSnowSongstress

Momo's Minion
Defender of Defoko
Aster Selene link said:
[quote author=TheSnowSongstress link=topic=1108.msg7647#msg7647 date=1332866477]
just for all of the play more than one ust:
there is a plugin a girl made for that. you can play 2 at the same time (not all, but 2)

where
WHERE
[/quote]i saw it on the old utaforum. she made a video and everything. i think it was the same girl who made the tutorial on self installing voicebanks
 

Cdra

possibly dead
Global Mod
Supporter
Defender of Defoko
No R notes.
Unicode.
Better dynamic (volume) control.
Multi-track editing.
Multiple voicebank capacity--whether in different tracks or the same one.
.vsqx support. (because sometimes people distribute vsqx's I want and I don't have V3 >w>)
.vsq importing that doesn't screw up the timing all over the place ;o;
Flags sucking less. :U (//doesn't use them because she can do anything a flag can do while mixing but BETTER)

Honestly?  "Post-utterance" is a great idea in theory for VCs, but it'd probably lead to the problems that Vocaloids have with them, which is that they're impossible to properly control and make not so... STRONG.  Or weak, depending on the 'loid.  ;o; I'd rather just control my VCs like I do now.

I don't want more automation, like, at all.  I like how manual UTAU is--it requires more work, sure, but it makes it more controllable than VOCALOID imo, which is really nice.  If it had better editing parameters (breathiness, etc; I hate flags lololol) and dynamic control... yeah.  Because pitchbending and phonemic editing in VOCALOID is horrible.  HORRIBLE.  And the more automation you introduce, the more potential there is for bugs.  So, yeah.  I want more manual stuff, not more automatic stuff. |3
 

Raven-Raspera

Momo's Minion
I quite like a lot of the ideas thrown out, especially the ones regarding mixers and being able to use Vocaloid style pitchbending and dynamics, as well as keeping VSQ/VSQx settings and importing VSQx files.

On the matter of using multiple appends in a song, the suffix system can actually do that in a way. I can't say if it's as good as the example posted because I don't have many voicebanks to use with it and so haven't played with it as much as I could.
 

MystSaphyr

Procrastinator Extraordinaire
Administrator
Defender of Defoko
Cdra link said:
Honestly?  \"Post-utterance\" is a great idea in theory for VCs, but it'd probably lead to the problems that Vocaloids have with them, which is that they're impossible to properly control and make not so... STRONG.  Or weak, depending on the 'loid.  ;o; I'd rather just control my VCs like I do now.


Howwww about post-utterance with default envelope settings :U

This actually reminds me. I've wanted envelope settings to go with otos. I'd love to be able to make "envelope maps" for UTAUs to apply for certain songs, like soft songs that need less consonant attack and loud songs that need more consonant attack. Same idea could work with post-utterance otos. Have an envelope setting that makes them taper off, that you could apply to the entire UST.


Envelopes are a GREAT thing for individual note control. I'd really like to keep them, but ALSO have drawn dynamics for more control over entire sections of a song.
 

smeen

Ruko's Ruffians
Defender of Defoko
You can actually hand draw pitchbends with a plug-in for Mode1.

But the issue is: It's for Mode1. >.<
 

Shamara

Momo's Minion
I don't want more automation, like, at all.  I like how manual UTAU is--it requires more work, sure, but it makes it more controllable than VOCALOID imo, which is really nice. 
This.

What I would very much like:
The ability to copy-paste notes between UTAU windows,  instead of having to save it as a new file in the same window, append it to the next file, open up the original file, and find your place again.
Yep, it sure would be nice if they could -actually go on the clipboard.-
Then again, the separate clipboards -can- come in handy when you're copy-pasting different parts in each song. But I think the cons outweigh the pros.

Separate Clipboards
ProsCons
Helps you remember which bit you needed to copy-pasteDoesn't let me move song parts into another file on a whim
Probably difficult to implement it to be otherwiseMeans you have to close and re-open the file
+10Inconvenient
Unintuitive
Stupid
-20000
 

faerimagic

Ruko's Ruffians
Official English Version.
Multi-track.
The ability to listen to instrumentals WHILE editing the voice (is that the same thing as multi-track?)
A more efficient way to show flags? Or maybe a small gadget that shows samples of how the voice would sound with flags?

OH, an EQUALIZATION GADGET, similar to the one in Audacity. ((I don't know about you guys, but I love that thing.))

Heck, I don't really know anymore... ovo"
 

PandaLolii

Teto's Territory
Defender of Defoko
Yes yes yes
Multi-tracks are definitely helpful.
And the multi-singers one. Anddd more volume control.
Waaah you all have said such good ideas. /cannot think of more realllllly/

Personally? I don't want a mixer...hm I don't know. < v > The ability to play the instr but not so much a mixer to render with....;;;

@ Aster - It's the one by ChiePomme. u v u
@ faeri - Mmmmm all music programs have EQ though???? :uhm: It's pretty important in mixing so um wait i lost my thought..
 

shinami

Procrastination Queen
Tutor
Supporter
Defender of Defoko
Honestly, I feel that a mixer in UTAU would suck. Audacity is pretty good for a freeware mixing program, but there are faaaar better programs out there. Since UTAU is made for, well, UTAU, and not for mixing, any mixer implimented into it would suck. All in all it would just make the program overly klunky and huge.
 

PandaLolii

Teto's Territory
Defender of Defoko
shinami link said:
Honestly, I feel that a mixer in UTAU would suck. Audacity is pretty good for a freeware mixing program, but there are faaaar better programs out there. Since UTAU is made for, well, UTAU, and not for mixing, any mixer implimented into it would suck. All in all it would just make the program overly klunky and huge.

Yesss, I was thinking similarly. Because UTAU is for UTAU, it should only ever worry over the voice? I don't think Ameya would fuss over perfecting a mixer too nor should he?.... So if he were to add one, it'd lack A LOT of helpful tools making it overall pretty worthless and a burden. oxo
 
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PurinPuff

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shinami link said:
Honestly, I feel that a mixer in UTAU would suck. Audacity is pretty good for a freeware mixing program, but there are faaaar better programs out there. Since UTAU is made for, well, UTAU, and not for mixing, any mixer implimented into it would suck. All in all it would just make the program overly klunky and huge.

I'd still like to be able to import wavs to the system, so that one can compare the original vocal to the UTAU voice. Even if you couldn't export the mix and just the wav file of the ust, having this reference would be useful for people making usts by ear. It would be helpful for timing as well.

A tempo-finder would be nice too. :3

EDIT: WAIT, that's multi-track isn't it? Ugh, I'm stupid... -__-;
 
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dCatharsis

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Thread starter
Ctrl+X and Ctrl+V working
VSQx support
Official english version
Multi-track
Multi-singers
Copy/paste notes between windows (THIS SO MUCH PLEASE)
No R notes....I mean, the method is OK, but another letter instead of R....what about X, for example?
Being able to hide the batch process
 

PandaLolii

Teto's Territory
Defender of Defoko
PurinPuff link said:
[quote author=shinami link=topic=1108.msg7887#msg7887 date=1333047429]
Honestly, I feel that a mixer in UTAU would suck. Audacity is pretty good for a freeware mixing program, but there are faaaar better programs out there. Since UTAU is made for, well, UTAU, and not for mixing, any mixer implimented into it would suck. All in all it would just make the program overly klunky and huge.

I'd still like to be able to import wavs to the system, so that one can compare the original vocal to the UTAU voice. Even if you couldn't export the mix and just the wav file of the ust, having this reference would be useful for people making usts by ear. It would be helpful for timing as well.

A tempo-finder would be nice too. :3

EDIT: WAIT, that's multi-track isn't it? Ugh, I'm stupid... -__-;
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Multi-track would be like...harmonies and main track being on the same ust. But istr support would be niiiice. uvu
 

Cdra

possibly dead
Global Mod
Supporter
Defender of Defoko
PandaLolii link said:
[quote author=shinami link=topic=1108.msg7887#msg7887 date=1333047429]
Honestly, I feel that a mixer in UTAU would suck. Audacity is pretty good for a freeware mixing program, but there are faaaar better programs out there. Since UTAU is made for, well, UTAU, and not for mixing, any mixer implimented into it would suck. All in all it would just make the program overly klunky and huge.

Yesss, I was thinking similarly. Because UTAU is for UTAU, it should only ever worry over the voice? I don't think Ameya would fuss over perfecting a mixer too nor should he?.... So if he were to add one, it'd lack A LOT of helpful tools making it overall pretty worthless and a burden. oxo
[/quote]
This.  So much this. D:  I would still mix in another program because it's so much better and more effective.  No, UTAU does not need a mixer. ;;
 

TheSnowSongstress

Momo's Minion
Defender of Defoko
i would have to say better midi support :x I hate that with a lot of midis it only gives you maybe 5 seconds of the vocals, then it goes off into the instrumental :x i suppose that would kinda go with multitrack, but still :x
 

faerimagic

Ruko's Ruffians
TheSnowSongstress link said:
i would have to say better midi support :x I hate that with a lot of midis it only gives you maybe 5 seconds of the vocals, then it goes off into the instrumental :x i suppose that would kinda go with multitrack, but still :x

Yes, I agree with better midi support. I found it difficult to import my midis, I had to download a second program that could convert it so UTAU could use it. (AND EVEN THEN THE VOCALS WERE STILL SCREWED. *This is a separate problem that I will not delve in right now*)

So, along those lines, I would absolutely love it if UTAU could have easier note input. What I mean is that it's slightly difficult to make notes the exact length that you want them to. Maybe a separate note-staff input (similar to Anvil or MuseScore), because then I could better make the right note lengths.
 

Neochroma

Momo's Minion
Better VC support in Voice Configuration (Like for English syllables), no need for the "R" for rest, hidden resampler, better breath support, skins, multi-tracking (PLEASE.), automatic UST reformatting (VCV - CV with the same notes), an internal mixer, more natural envelope fades,and a "Remove all __ notes" feature.

Then again, if this were to take place, it wouldn't be anytime soon... I like UTAU the way it is, but I atleast hope someone attempts UTAU Multi-track support... I would die *3*
 

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