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cupcakuu

Momo's Minion
shinami link said:
(I hope you don't mind I deleted your accidental copy of your previous post Chihaya.)

Now, here's a music rant I've been wanting to unload onto the fandom/everyone for a while.

I'm tired of people saying that singing is worthless, and that the voice isn't an instrument.

They argue that \"oooh you don't need to know musical theory or structure or chords etc, everyone can sing if they want, balkjfhaljhf\".

Consider this.

Singing is EXACTLY like playing an instrument. Not everyone is good at first. Anyone can start singing/pick up an instrument and even without musical lessons or knowledge become amazing. I'm certain there are many great piano players out there who have never read a piece of music, just like there are great singers who can't read music either. It's just self-built talent, and while some of it may not have the technical perfection of someone trained, it's still talent.

So, there goes the argument about how everyone can sing and not everyone can play an instrument. I can bet you that I could pick up piano if I tried harder even without training. It just takes dedication and practice, like singing techniques.

Now, as to how singing, properly, doesn't require musical skill and knowledge.

As a choral student, I find that highly offensive and stupid.

In class we're constantly sight-reading based on keys and minors and tempo and rhythm, training our ears to pick up chords and following scales, etc. Every year we go to contests, just like band students, and perform practiced pieces and then we go to the sight-reading rooms where we're expected to perfectly follow a piece we've never seen before with about five minutes of practice.

I get how you all say \"anyone can sing\", but like I said, same thing for an instrument. However, to perform professionally, chorally/operatically, you need musical skill. Just as much as a band.

We're always splitting into sections (Soprano 1, Soprano 2, Alto 1, Alto 2, Tenor 1, Tenor 2, Baritone 1, Baritone 2, Bass) to practice and figure out our parts, making sure we're singing properly like by using the diaphram. We're even concerned with keeping our voices \"well tuned\" and in good condition, much like instruments.

So please. Argue that singing is not on the same level of an instrument. In the end, they're both blowing air out of your mouth in a certain way alongside practice.

This rant. I love you for this rant. <3
 

adriann

Ye Olde Fart
Supporter
Defender of Defoko
MLe link said:
[quote author=shinami link=topic=206.msg3220#msg3220 date=1329690081]
(I hope you don't mind I deleted your accidental copy of your previous post Chihaya.)

Now, here's a music rant I've been wanting to unload onto the fandom/everyone for a while.

I'm tired of people saying that singing is worthless, and that the voice isn't an instrument.

They argue that \"oooh you don't need to know musical theory or structure or chords etc, everyone can sing if they want, balkjfhaljhf\".

Consider this.

Singing is EXACTLY like playing an instrument. Not everyone is good at first. Anyone can start singing/pick up an instrument and even without musical lessons or knowledge become amazing. I'm certain there are many great piano players out there who have never read a piece of music, just like there are great singers who can't read music either. It's just self-built talent, and while some of it may not have the technical perfection of someone trained, it's still talent.

So, there goes the argument about how everyone can sing and not everyone can play an instrument. I can bet you that I could pick up piano if I tried harder even without training. It just takes dedication and practice, like singing techniques.

Now, as to how singing, properly, doesn't require musical skill and knowledge.

As a choral student, I find that highly offensive and stupid.

In class we're constantly sight-reading based on keys and minors and tempo and rhythm, training our ears to pick up chords and following scales, etc. Every year we go to contests, just like band students, and perform practiced pieces and then we go to the sight-reading rooms where we're expected to perfectly follow a piece we've never seen before with about five minutes of practice.

I get how you all say \"anyone can sing\", but like I said, same thing for an instrument. However, to perform professionally, chorally/operatically, you need musical skill. Just as much as a band.

We're always splitting into sections (Soprano 1, Soprano 2, Alto 1, Alto 2, Tenor 1, Tenor 2, Baritone 1, Baritone 2, Bass) to practice and figure out our parts, making sure we're singing properly like by using the diaphram. We're even concerned with keeping our voices \"well tuned\" and in good condition, much like instruments.

So please. Argue that singing is not on the same level of an instrument. In the end, they're both blowing air out of your mouth in a certain way alongside practice.

This rant. I love you for this rant. <3
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OMG agreed
 

Rai

Teto's Territory
Some friends constantly telling me that art isn't a real subject. I know they're merely jesting but I still can't help but feel a twinge of anger.
 

nils8950

Teto's Territory
My ****ing parents are going to ****ing divorce.

..well sorry for this. ;A;
 

UtauYork

Teto's Territory
I figured that I could try to vent here for once.

I wish I could go back home. I feel completely trapped here and knowing that me and my family were practically forced to leave our old home, I can't help but feel an extreme hatred for this place.

For UTAU, I've been wanting to make friends throught the fandom for almost a year now and I haven't succeeded once. How do other people make so many friends in a week when I've barely made one? ...Probably not even that. How come I constantly feel like I'm ignored? Not only here, but at school and just... everywhere. I guess I naturally fail at making friends. I still haven't made any friends since I moved out of state three years ago.
...
......
.........
/sob
;A;
 

Iscabird

Ritsu's Renegades
Defender of Defoko
The other week I found someone on Nico Nico Douga had used Kii. Let me reiterate: it has taken 2.5 years from Kii's creation for a Japanese UTAU user to use Kii. You can't tell me that that shouldn't be a record or something. xD
Other than that, I'm feeling stuck for UTAU cover ideas. Yesterday I deleted all these old .ust folders that I don't use anymore and I was amazed at how much space they took up (especially the Nico Ryuuseigun .usts coupled with the old rendered .wavs and the caches). I should go through my .ust folders and delete old .wavs and caches periodically so that less space is taken up on the external hard drive, I think.
The power point my desktop computer's connected to went kaput earlier. Dad fixed it at the power box and the computer works fine now, but for some reason the internet security program we have on it has gone haywire. It won't turn on and sometimes a window comes up saying that the shields are unreachable if I click on something in the program's interface. It's still working on mum's laptop though. I imagine reinstalling the program might fix it, but I'm not so sure.
 

Astral-Arts

Ruko's Ruffians
Defender of Defoko
UtauYork link said:
I figured that I could try to vent here for once.

I wish I could go back home. I feel completely trapped here and knowing that me and my family were practically forced to leave our old home, I can't help but feel an extreme hatred for this place.

For UTAU, I've been wanting to make friends throught the fandom for almost a year now and I haven't succeeded once. How do other people make so many friends in a week when I've barely made one? ...Probably not even that. How come I constantly feel like I'm ignored? Not only here, but at school and just... everywhere. I guess I naturally fail at making friends. I still haven't made any friends since I moved out of state three years ago.
...
......
.........
/sob
;A;

...Come here you. *opens arms for a hug*
 

moonst4r

Witch of the Night
Supporter
Defender of Defoko
Some strong language.

My roommate is a bitch. Seriously. I am a very tolerant person and it takes a lot of effort to get on my nerves, and I congratulate her because she was the first one to do so. She's also one of the main reasons I'm so ****ing tired all the time. I can never take naps during the day because the moment she walks into the room, she turns the TV on to see a ****ing reality show which I can't stand and blasts her music through her earbuds so loud I could even hear it when I'm in the bathroom. If I tell her to turn it down, it's still loud and it will be next time as well. She bangs the doors and drawers when I'm trying to sleep too. At night, I even let her keep the lights on and the TV when I'm trying to sleep and she has to stay up late. BUT, when she needs to sleep and I stay up late, my only light is from my lamp and I'm quiet as a mouse and she gets annoyed and tosses and turns, "tsk"s, and says "my god". She even turned off my lamp one time leaving the room completely dark except for my computer screen. Yeah, that's ****ing fair.

Okay, I'm done.
 

Asteriski

Teto's Territory
I want to tell myself it was just a spambot. But nobody's ever mentioned a spambot out of the Netherlands... I want to keep using Vocaloid, but I feel like I'm doing it wrong if I don't publicize my outputs, and I always get random dislikes with absolutely no feedback...

It's almost the same as UTAU, but at least I don't get random dislikes on that. It's just... nothing.
 

Becca

Momo's Minion
Twice this past week, I've literally and seriously thought about how I could kill my sister.  It unnerves me a bit when I think back about it, but at the same time I can't regret it, because I just hate her so much.  There's no sisterly love at all.  I feel no obligation to love this stupid little girl.
 

IrisFlower

Precious Flower with Thorns
Supporter
Defender of Defoko
I feel like I rant too much but oh well u_u

So when my friend's brother and sister came to pick her up so they could go out to eat, I was typing up the next chapter of Winter Heat. And normally I don't mind people looking over my shoulder to see what I'm writing, my friend does it all the time. She even helps me come up with stuff sometimes when I'm stuck on description and such.

But her brother and sister just started basically mocking me while my friend was upstairs getting her stuff. They were reading what I had out loud in stupid voices and asked if I had "issues" because the part I was writing is kinda dark(I mean Winter Heat is pretty dark and depressing already but you know...). Anyway I'd minimize Word and they'd go away to help their sister but when I opened Word again it's like they knew and came back and continued the mocking and making fun of. For no reason! I've done nothing to these people!

Thankfully, my friend caught them and told them to knock it off or else and apologized to me for what they did...and then her brother was like, "It's not our fault she's sensitive." Really? Yes I'm sensitive about some things but you were basically openly making fun of me! How did you expect me to react? I'm just glad my friend has a soul. I hold nothing against her and I won't let her siblings stupid actions ruin our friendship.
 

Mrs.Peach

Married Sugar Mama
Global Mod
Defender of Defoko
moonst4r link said:
Some strong language.

My roommate is a bitch. Seriously. I am a very tolerant person and it takes a lot of effort to get on my nerves, and I congratulate her because she was the first one to do so. She's also one of the main reasons I'm so ****ing tired all the time. I can never take naps during the day because the moment she walks into the room, she turns the TV on to see a ****ing reality show which I can't stand and blasts her music through her earbuds so loud I could even hear it when I'm in the bathroom. If I tell her to turn it down, it's still loud and it will be next time as well. She bangs the doors and drawers when I'm trying to sleep too. At night, I even let her keep the lights on and the TV when I'm trying to sleep and she has to stay up late. BUT, when she needs to sleep and I stay up late, my only light is from my lamp and I'm quiet as a mouse and she gets annoyed and tosses and turns, \"tsk\"s, and says \"my god\". She even turned off my lamp one time leaving the room completely dark except for my computer screen. Yeah, that's ****ing fair.

Okay, I'm done.


For badness, some night, do EXACTLY what she does to you!
 

Zelfie Windwalker

Ruko's Ruffians
Perhaps I'm just an angsty teenager, but this really bothers me:
I am waaaaaay too hard on myself. You probably know perfectionists, but...it's like if you mess up even a little bit, it's worthless trash.

I try to accept criticism, and I'm ok with that. But when I get something wrong and that could potentially get me into trouble, I can't take it. Any confidence I have just drops and I have a break down.

I may have to quit VO for a while ;_;
 

Angel

Momo's Minion
Thread starter
Let the angel of cookies reply to your concerns.

@Kii

I hope your computer's okay. It's sad, because I feel as my laptop and computer are like my friends and I don't want them to have problems. But, keep trying to find solutions on the interwebs to help!

@Becca

Love your sister ;o; I have siblings who are complete meanies, and don't care and take my kind actions into nothing. When you feel you wish to kill your sister again, please think about the good memories (there must be some) and that you can always talk to her and tell her how you feel about her. Mabye she will think about it and change.

@IrisFlower

What meanies. Geez, it's okay to not write about rainbows all the time. I know how it feels when someone gets your work and says it with stupid voices. It's annoying. It's okay, you won't have to deal with them anymore.

@Rai

Art is a real subject >:O
Or it wouldn't be in school!

@York

I'll be your friend ;o;
You won't be alone anymore! Mabye join UO, the community there is nice.

@moonst4r

How mean. If your roomate does that again, tell her she's making too much noise and needs to quiet down. Because it isn't fair for her to blast the TV.

@Zelfie

Everyone gets criticism. Sometimes it's a bit harsh, but you must remember it's that person opinion and you shouldn't take it too seriously. If you think your work is good enough and you worked hard on it, that's all I care about.

@Asteriski

Never get too serious over a dislike. Remember, there must be people out there who will like your work! Spambot or not, if there are views people are watching your views. And if there are likes, people enjoy your work ;3
Who cares about that dislike? Go out and produce your hard work!


^o^ That's all.
 

shinami

Procrastination Queen
Tutor
Supporter
Defender of Defoko
*Clicks upgrade a few time for Angel*

Thanks for being so nice to everyone! ; u ;

And I second the UO notion, York. It's a VERY friendly place, and you'll get some notice there eventually.
 

stormylullaby

Always Watching You
Global Mod
Supporter
Defender of Defoko
Speaking of UTAUOnline...

HOW. DO. YOU. SIGN. UP. FOR. UO. /completely embarrassed...

I hate how much of an asskiss this community is. The amount of poorly configured UTAUs there are out there makes me sick as it is [size=5pt]yes I'm an butt....there are so many tutorials nowadays you really shouldn't be having this problem gaiz
but what makes it worse is the amount of compliments there are. The UTAU could have terribad pronunciations & not been OTO'd at all, singing Melt with the UST completely offkey, & there's a comment like this:

"OMG GJ GJ SHE (it's almost ALWAYS a female UTAU) SOUNDS SO NICE AND AMAZINGU!!!"

Stop. Please. Even someone whose never heard that song can tell you that something is terribly wrong with it. At least...try. Put some kind of criticism into it. can you tell I'm criticism-deprived?

Also, how do I USTs? I currently have one 95% completed, but I'm 101% convinced that all the work I put into it was for nothing D: if I can't get views on my covers, how will I get views on a UST release? Also, I need to learn to make USTs by ear. There are so many songs that I want to cover but MIDIs or sheet music don't exist for them.
 

SakisCookie

Teto's Territory
Defender of Defoko
stormylullaby link said:
Speaking of UTAUOnline...

HOW. DO. YOU. SIGN. UP. FOR. UO. /completely embarrassed...

I hate how much of an asskiss this community is. The amount of poorly configured UTAUs there are out there makes me sick as it is [size=5pt]yes I'm an butt....there are so many tutorials nowadays you really shouldn't be having this problem gaiz
but what makes it worse is the amount of compliments there are. The UTAU could have terribad pronunciations & not been OTO'd at all, singing Melt with the UST completely offkey, & there's a comment like this:

\"OMG GJ GJ SHE (it's almost ALWAYS a female UTAU) SOUNDS SO NICE AND AMAZINGU!!!\"

Stop. Please. Even someone whose never heard that song can tell you that something is terribly wrong with it. At least...try. Put some kind of criticism into it. can you tell I'm criticism-deprived?

Also, how do I USTs? I currently have one 95% completed, but I'm 101% convinced that all the work I put into it was for nothing D: if I can't get views on my covers, how will I get views on a UST release? Also, I need to learn to make USTs by ear. There are so many songs that I want to cover but MIDIs or sheet music don't exist for them.


........marry me.

A lot of times, I'm worried that giving criticism will make people upset, because I have an intense fear of people being upset with me. So I hear something awful and then quietly back away.

Also...I clicked around UO for, like, two hours. I found no way to register, either.
We shall be embarrassed together, no? ouo
 

IrisFlower

Precious Flower with Thorns
Supporter
Defender of Defoko
@stormy

I've critiqued a few people. One Cyber Thunder Cider cover...the user actually THANKED me for taking the time to help them improve. Needless to say...that made my day /tearsofjoy

That being said there are so many people within this fandom who would probably tear my head off for even thinking of critiquing them so I am very selective of who I choose to critique. I don't critique UTAUs who are very off because in my opinion the risk of the person being easily butt hurt is greater. I usually critique newbies who I can tell have tried and are willing to learn. I also don't critique people who have a slew of fans -stays faaaaar away from Hoshine Stella and Utaune Nami- because whooo...those fans are dangerous sometimes. They get more insulted than the actual user and it's crazy. And the user usually has this superiority attitude about them like, "I have ALL these fans so there is no need to improve. Your critiques are crap so stfu and go away." (Not saying that's how Feli and Nami's creator are just saying that's how users can be).

So uhh...my point is that most people feel it's better to follow the rule of "If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all." And I know critiques can be nice but at the same time...a lot of people can come off as being rude when giving them even when they don't mean to. So yes...it's just...people tend to tread lightly in the waters of critiquing in this fandom and only truly critique when the user asks for it or when they are 95% sure they won't get flamed in return for it.
 
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